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Uneasy rests the crown on Sheep Queen’s head! David Who Gave Haggis Enough Free Reign
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In article <19980307132600.IAA29…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, blessed…@aol.com (BlessedBy2) wrote: > Diane, that was too nice of you … or are you poking fun at my long nose <g> > … it’s at least as long as some of those Buckingham ones! > Blessed Who Has Always been Frustrated about Never Finding a Hat to Fit Because > My Head’s Too Big
Buckingham? (there’s an Old Buckingham Rd. about 2 minutes away from here that dates to the late 1700’s I think, but I don’t remember anything about noses… and far be it from me to ever poke anything at Blessed’s nose…) —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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RandallBart wrote: > BTW, how does anyone ever remember to take ADD medicine? One day > recently, I went to take a hypericum capsule, and I picked up the bottle > and looked at the label. Five minutes later I realized I hadn’t > actually taken one — well I was sort of sure I hadn’t taken one — so I > went back and picked up the bottle and looked at the label again. Five > minutes later I was trying to figure out whether I had taken my > hypericum, and wasn’t positive but I was pretty sure I still hadn’t take > it. This time I made sure to open the bottle and look inside it, and > then I was sure I hadn’t opened the bottle on the other two tries.
The epitomy of ADD (related in the paradox of trying to _treat_ ADD). BradHAWK, who used to have to ask his mother if we’d already eaten supper yet.
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Haggis Reg wrote: > In article <19980307132600.IAA29…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, blessed…@aol.com > (BlessedBy2) writes: > >Blessed Who Has Always been Frustrated about Never Finding a Hat to > >Fit Because My Head’s Too Big > Shhhh!!! A big head could make you Closet-fodder…. > Haggis Regina Who Thinks That Queen Blessed Should Watch What She says
A big rattly head, no less. BradHAWK, who hopes Blessed comes bearing pizza (kosher, no shaving cream).
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Hello, my name is Christian. I am a 15 year old Norwegian boy, this is my first time on AST. I used to have very strong problems with anxiety. I take Anafranil 40 mg two times a day and it helps me a lot. Best regards, Christian Malerbakken (Yes, John Morten is my father) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -viking wrote: > has anyone used any medication which has helped with anxiety one of the main > triggers for TS? my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which > is making her ts ( voices in head) severe.
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In article <19980228080001.DAA11…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, haggis…@aol.com (Haggis Reg) wrote: > I think that what you are describing is the classic TS "Noise In Head" > situation – > It seems that a lot of people hear music (BTW – Thanks Reporter, for the Small > World torture…) but other "noises" are common. > They seem to be a play-back of things that we have heard during the day. > >But I don’t want you to think I hear voices. Is this the condition > >Viking is describing in her daughter?
When you dream you may "hear" voices and "see" images. If you are just drifting off to sleep you will begin to experience this, if you have a tic or there is a loud "real" noise you make wake and all of these "voices" and "images" immediately disappear, as do dreams, and are almost immediately forgotten. It is similar to the sun coming up and drowning out the stars. Is this what is meant? —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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RandallBart wrote in message <6d8a5n$…@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>… >Haggis Reg wrote: >> In article <19980227161701.LAA24…@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
pamz…@aol.com >> (Pamzee1) writes: >> >>my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which >> >>is making her ts (voices in head) severe. >> >"voices in head"? Haven’t seen this one listed as >> >a symptom of TS. Sounds more like a symptom of something else. >> >Can someone clarify? >> >Pam >> Since you describe her symptoms as anxiety and "voices in her head" >> I would say that it sounds more like schitzophrenia or some kind of psychosis >> than Tourettes.
Early on in my reading and exploration trying to learn more about TS, I found mention of schitzophrenia as being a companion of TS, much as OCD, ADHD, etc. though not as commen. K.C.
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KC and Everyone, Lately, we’ve heard people on this newsgroup attempt to link just about every possible disorder with Tourette Syndrome, from bipolar to bad breath. Today, the disease of the hour is schizophrenia. Let’s take a look at what the research is saying about this particular topic. One researcher who has done a good deal of work in this area is Mary M. Robertson from the UK. I would guess that many of you have heard of her and her work. In an article called "Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and Self-Injurious Behavior," written by Mary M. Robertson and Jessica W. Yakeley, published in the "Handbook of Tourette’s Syndrome and Related Tic and Behavioral Disorders" [edited by Roger Kurlan, Marcel Dekker, 1993], we find the following comment on page 62: "A wide variety of SIB [self-injurious behavior] is seen in such psychotic disorders as schizophrenia…. Psychosis is rare in TS patients, and is mainly associated with mental retardation. More specifically, no patients were psychotic in the large TS cohort in which SIB was common and the eye injuries were documented." The statement regarding the rarity of psychoses, which presumably includes schizophrenia in this context, because of the opening sentence of the paragraph, is backed up by two other studies conducted by Ms. Robertson. The link to mental retardation relies on two other studies conducted by other researchers. While schizophrenia has been observed and documented in four individuals with TS [ibid, p. 62], the Robertson-Yakeley article suggests that it is "rare." Not only so, but it is "mainly associated with mental retardation." That should ease the minds of parents reading this newsgroup. Anyone else know of any further research that might shed some light on this matter? Hope this helps you with your question, KC. Chuck in NJ Michael D. Holmes wrote in message … >RandallBart wrote in message
<6d8a5n$…@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Haggis Reg wrote: >>> In article <19980227161701.LAA24…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, >pamz…@aol.com >>> (Pamzee1) writes: >>> >>my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which >>> >>is making her ts (voices in head) severe. >>> >"voices in head"? Haven’t seen this one listed as >>> >a symptom of TS. Sounds more like a symptom of something else. >>> >Can someone clarify? >>> >Pam >>> Since you describe her symptoms as anxiety and "voices in her head" >>> I would say that it sounds more like schitzophrenia or some kind of >psychosis >>> than Tourettes. >Early on in my reading and exploration trying to learn more about TS, I >found mention of schitzophrenia as being a companion of TS, much as OCD, >ADHD, etc. though not as commen. >K.C.
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Haggis Reg wrote: > In article <6d8a5n$…@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, RandallBart > <Barti…@worldnet.att.spam.net> writes: > >Well, I don’t want anyone to think that I hear voices, but there is > >a constant din in the back of my head. There’s shouting and screaming > >and talking and some noises. It includes some voices which I > >recognize (including my own) and some voices that are warped beyond > >comprehension. > I think that what you are describing is the classic TS "Noise In Head" > situation –
If it’s "classic" why have I never heard it mentioned in a.s.t before? Can you give a reference? If there’s a symptom of schizophrenia called "hearing voices" and a symptom of Tourette called "noise in head", then I definitely have "noise in head" even though most of the noise is voices. === BlessedBy2 wrote: > Randall, I’ll send you a long addendum I received from the author’s of the > Hypericum Home Page. They claim you can go to much higher doses than the > recommended ones. What did you start at? I started my son at 1.8 mg hypericin > (300 mg standardized to .03% hypericin two times a day), later increasing him > to 2.7 mg (3 capsules) and then later again to 3.6 mg (4 capsules).
You mean .3% not .03%. (300mg * .03% = .09mg — 300mg * .3% = .9mg) I had intended not to discuss hypericum until I had been on it longer. With question about hearing voices, I felt I needed to chime in, and since hypericum seems to be helping I wanted to mention that. I don’t want to discuss dosages yet, but I am experiencing positive results with dosages which are still rather low. BTW, how does anyone ever remember to take ADD medicine? One day recently, I went to take a hypericum capsule, and I picked up the bottle and looked at the label. Five minutes later I realized I hadn’t actually taken one — well I was sort of sure I hadn’t taken one — so I went back and picked up the bottle and looked at the label again. Five minutes later I was trying to figure out whether I had taken my hypericum, and wasn’t positive but I was pretty sure I still hadn’t take it. This time I made sure to open the bottle and look inside it, and then I was sure I hadn’t opened the bottle on the other two tries. I think I need a seven day pillbox. — I | Randall Bart mailto:Barti…@usa.spam.net L |/ I don’t hear voices, but would everyone please stop shouting o | Barti…@worldnet.att.spam.net Barti…@hotmail.spam.com v | 1-310-542-6013 Please reply without spam e | Y |/ Panic in the Year Zero Zero: http://members.aol.com/PanicYr00 o | The puzzle too hard for human beings: u |/ http://members.aol.com/PanicYr00/Sequence.html
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>I think I need a seven day pillbox.
BINGO !!! Blessed (Whose Much-Older-Than-Randall Mother Uses One !)
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In article <19980306123700.HAA05…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, blessed…@aol.com (BlessedBy2) wrote: > >I think I need a seven day pillbox. > BINGO !!! > Blessed (Whose Much-Older-Than-Randall Mother Uses One !)
My son has one, but I keep forgetting to remind him to take his medicine. —–== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==—– http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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Is this an obscure allusion to Jackie Kennedy Onassis or what? Donna Z who is picturing Blessed in a pink pillbox hat…
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In article <19980307025700.VAA00…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, donn…@aol.com (DonnaMZ) writes: >Donna Z who is picturing Blessed in a pink pillbox hat…
Oh. A pillbox hat… It would certainly account for that rattling noise she makes when she shakes her head… Haggis Regina Who HOPES It’s Just The Hat…
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Is this an obscure allusion to Jackie Kennedy Onassis or what? Donna Z who is picturing Blessed in a pink pillbox hat… Actually, Donna, I could see Blessed in a pillbox hat. She has that regal, Jackie O kind of look to her. Regards, Diane in CT
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>Is this an obscure allusion to Jackie Kennedy Onassis or what? >Donna Z who is picturing Blessed in a pink pillbox hat…
I’m lost. Must be the noise in my brain. Just when I thought I was gettin’ good at obscure allusions, I miss a big one …
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>Actually, Donna, I could see Blessed in a pillbox hat. She has that regal, >Jackie O kind of look to her. >Regards, Diane in CT
Diane, that was too nice of you … or are you poking fun at my long nose <g> … it’s at least as long as some of those Buckingham ones! Blessed Who Has Always been Frustrated about Never Finding a Hat to Fit Because My Head’s Too Big
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>>I think I need a seven day pillbox.
Oh .. NOW I get it … Blessed Trying to Make the Rattle Go Away
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In article <19980307132600.IAA29…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, blessed…@aol.com (BlessedBy2) writes: >Blessed Who Has Always been Frustrated about Never Finding a Hat to Fit >Because My Head’s Too Big
Shhhh!!! A big head could make you Closet-fodder…. Haggis Regina Who Thinks That Queen Blessed Should Watch What She says
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has anyone used any medication which has helped with anxiety one of the main triggers for TS? my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which is making her ts ( voices in head) severe.
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>has anyone used any medication which has helped with anxiety one of the main >triggers for TS? my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which >is making her ts ( voices in head) severe.
My main TS symptom is anxiety. I feel the anxiety brought out my tics. I use Librium. I take it at night and it helps me sleep and live virtually anxiety free. I have had a kind of love-hate relationship with this drug. When I first started taking it in 1980, I was taking the wrong dosage with the wrong combination of drugs. I was taking Elavil at the same time which became problematic. I was given these drugs by a Hypnotherapist who did not know what he was doing. He told me Librium was not addictive. Unfortunatly, it is. To get to the point, I use Librium for anxiety.I take it in the evening(25mg). It is effective. I have taken it during the daytime when I was having anxiety attacks. I would take between 5 to 10mg every time I had an attack. I know there is Buspar on the market. It does not work for me. I tried it and then tried to slowly taper off the Librium and I started having anxiety again. Even though Librium is addictive, it can be used for extensive periods without building up a tolerance. In fact, I no longer have daytime anxiety attacks so I no longer have to take it in the daytime. I would suggest that you try a drug for at least 2 to 3 months and see if it works. If it doesn’t work, try another anxiety drug. Some of these drugs have underdesirable side affects. You’ll see as you experiment. It may take a year or two until you find a good effective drug combination. You might keep a daily log and follow the TS symptoms, and any drug symptoms and see if there is any improvment. Good luck Fred Enisz Denver, Co>
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In article <888522136.6597.0.nnrp-09.c2dec…@news.demon.co.uk>, "viking" <vik…@dectis.demon.co.uk> writes: >my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which is making her ts ( >voices in head) severe.
"voices in head"? Haven’t seen this one listed as a symptom of TS. Sounds more like a symptom of something else. Can someone clarify? Pam
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In article <19980227161701.LAA24…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, pamz…@aol.com (Pamzee1) writes: >>my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which >>is making her ts (voices in head) severe. >"voices in head"? Haven’t seen this one listed as >a symptom of TS. Sounds more like a symptom of something else. >Can someone clarify? >Pam
Well, yes. I noticed this post before, and waited to see if someone else was going to answer it… As to your question: Are you sure that your daughter has TS? Since you describe her symptoms as anxiety and "voices in her head" I would say that it sounds more like schitzophrenia or some kind of psychosis than Tourettes. Tourette Syndrome has many different symptoms, but hearing voices is not one of them. Has she seen a Dr.? Good luck! -Karen
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In article <6d8a5n$…@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, RandallBart <Barti…@worldnet.att.spam.net> writes: >Well, I don’t want anyone to think that I hear voices, but there is >a constant din in the back of my head. There’s shouting and screaming >and talking and some noises. It includes some voices which I >recognize (including my own) and some voices that are warped beyond >comprehension.
I think that what you are describing is the classic TS "Noise In Head" situation – It seems that a lot of people hear music (BTW – Thanks Reporter, for the Small World torture…) but other "noises" are common. They seem to be a play-back of things that we have heard during the day. >But I don’t want you to think I hear voices. Is this the condition >Viking is describing in her daughter?
It would appear so…if I am wrong, I hope that she writes back to clarify the siuation. > Randall Bart >mailto:Barti…@usa.spam.net >I don’t hear voices
-Karen
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>About a month ago I started taking Hypericum (St John’s Wort). After >four days I notice that the screaming in the back of my head had >subsuded greatly. But now with time it has increased to aproximately >previous levels. I ma thinking of upping my Hypericum intake, to see >what that does. I started at a relativley low dose.
Randall, I’ll send you a long addendum I received from the author’s of the Hypericum Home Page. They claim you can go to much higher doses than the recommended ones. What did you start at? I started my son at 1.8 mg hypericin (300 mg standardized to .03% hypericin two times a day), later increasing him to 2.7 mg (3 capsules) and then later again to 3.6 mg (4 capsules). At 4 capsules, he complained of headaches, so we went back to 3. When I reduce him to two, he’s in trouble with depressive symptoms within a week. All of this is within the adult range recommended by the German studies, but the author’s of the home page recommend higher doses. BUT, when I give my older son only 1 tablet, he gets a splitting headache within half an hour. YMMV
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Haggis Reg wrote: > In article <19980227161701.LAA24…@ladder03.news.aol.com>, pamz…@aol.com > (Pamzee1) writes: > >>my daughter aged 13 yrs is very stressed and anxiety which > >>is making her ts (voices in head) severe. > >"voices in head"? Haven’t seen this one listed as > >a symptom of TS. Sounds more like a symptom of something else. > >Can someone clarify? > >Pam > Since you describe her symptoms as anxiety and "voices in her head" > I would say that it sounds more like schitzophrenia or some kind of psychosis > than Tourettes.
Well, I don’t want anyone to think that I hear voices, but there is a constant din in the back of my head. There’s shouting and screaming and talking and some noises. It includes some voices which I recognize (including my own) and some voices that are warped beyond comprehension About a month ago I started taking Hypericum (St John’s Wort). After four days I notice that the screaming in the back of my head had subsuded greatly. But now with time it has increased to aproximately previous levels. I ma thinking of upping my Hypericum intake, to see what that does. I started at a relativley low dose. But I don’t want you to think I hear voices. Is this the condition Viking is describing in her daughter? — I | Randall Bart mailto:Barti…@usa.spam.net L |/ I don’t hear voices o | Barti…@worldnet.att.spam.net Barti…@hotmail.spam.com v | 1-818-985-3259 Please reply without spam e | Y |/ Panic in the Year Zero Zero: http://members.aol.com/PanicYr00 o | The puzzle too hard for human beings: u |/ http://members.aol.com/PanicYr00/Sequence.html
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Here’s a question… Can anyone relate anxiety to TS? I know when I am anxious I tic more, but is TS causing the anxiety in the first place? I wonder if TS is more prevalent in people who are generally more anxious type or psychologically "A" type people. I… er……anxiously await. hahaha Dean.
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in my case, anxiety/excitability, especially wrought by a "good" experience seems to be when i have more ticcing…squealing, shouting, etc., and usually in private.
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>Can anyone relate anxiety to TS? >I know when I am anxious I tic more, but is TS causing the anxiety in the >first place? >I wonder if TS is more prevalent in people who are generally more anxious >type or psychologically "A" type people. >I… er……anxiously await. hahaha
When I saw a Movment disorder specialist, his first question was "What do we need to medicate you for?". My reply was anxiety. I have random anxiety attacks. There seems to be no method or reason as to why they occur. I take Librium(at bedtime). I also am experimenting with Nicorette Gum. Nocorette seems to knock out these random anxiety attacks about 10 minutes after I start chewing a piece. Fred
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– Joanne Cohen, LCSW MCartwrite <mcartwr…@aol.com> wrote in article <19990217214034.12402.00002…@ng153.aol.com>… : in my case, anxiety/excitability, especially wrought by a "good" experience : seems to be when i have more ticcing…squealing, shouting, etc., and usually : in private. : : Personally, other than in bed, I find it more amusing and satisfying to do my squealing and shouting in public. Never squeal in public, it annoys the neighbors and pisses off the pig
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I don’t know, Dean…kind of which came first, the chicken or the egg? My son has very high anxiety levels and TS…whether the TS contributed to the anxiety or whether the anxiety causes more tics, I don’t know. Personally, I can equate high anxiety levels to more tics…but I also think my own anxiety is partly due to TS but much more due to environment. Dr. Freeman might have some info on this on the CATS database. Joyce – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dean Stewart wrote in message <36cb3cea.0@nap-ns1>… >Here’s a question… >Can anyone relate anxiety to TS? >I know when I am anxious I tic more, but is TS causing the anxiety in the >first place? >I wonder if TS is more prevalent in people who are generally more anxious >type or psychologically "A" type people. >I… er……anxiously await. hahaha >Dean.
