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> I dunno…it seems we have our fair share of female bullies…. > jo
Yes I agree Jo, all that I claim is true but NOT one item she claimed is true about me…when my late mom saw her get out of my car , my mom cringded for she knew just what P is about. My uncle , the teacher at the school she supposedly attended, told she never came back after the first class. I could go on but it is as much as a waste of time with those of you who believe in fantises. I refer to my real stalkers not P who does not have the ability to do what they have done…….all she did was to give me a foul taste in my mouth when it comes to blonds. And where I know live they infest the country side. Only difference now is that it is legal to carry a firearm here so you fillin the blanks 
P is dead to me as a subject. I make my attacks or "vulgar" references to others that none of you know about but do lurk and read here…..so if you don’t like it? Killfile me or don’t read…………who cares? Not I ahahahahahah
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>Subject: Re: I am sorry >From: "What about Bob??" ka1…@charter.net >Date: 10/26/04 4:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <10ntm674kb72…@corp.supernews.com> >DO NOT want to learn any more………..just want peace and quiet and sex
Peace and freedom from the unwelcome and unwanted communications of malicious persons who have made a conscious decision to destroy another via cyberharassment and malicious defamation is all targets of cyberstalking want too!. cyberstalkers post harassing posts of a malicious and libelous nature to inflame or provoke their targets into responding; -therefore, resuming communications with persons who have made their malicious intent toward the target known to the target. Once a target accepts that the obsessional pursuit of the deranged cyberstalkers is one inciting the cyberstalkers to pursue a target no matter how many times a target changes nyms, ISP’s, newsreaders, and forums, then, the target must IGNORE, ENDURE and work to transcend the cyberstalkers harassment and libel. I ignore, endure and seek to transcend the vicious cyberstalking being engaged in towards me. I advise bystanders to ignore, endure and work to transcending the cyberstalkers hostile presence on the ng. If you posted this message owing to your haven to chose to scapegoat me…for their aggression…then I will killfile you along with the cyberstalkers and those who scapegoat targets for the aggressio of abusers. As I find it abusive to me to be scapegoated by bystanders for the aggression of cyberstalkers.
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Nuther sock puppet of Lindas. "Tiffanyattrop" <tiffanyatt…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041026232115.01624.00003142@mb-m28.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Subject: Re: I am sorry > >From: "What about Bob??" ka1…@charter.net > >Date: 10/26/04 4:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time > >Message-id: <10ntm674kb72…@corp.supernews.com> > >DO NOT want to learn any more………..just want peace and quiet and sex > Peace and freedom from the unwelcome and unwanted communications of > malicious persons who have made a conscious decision to destroy another via > cyberharassment and malicious defamation is all targets of > cyberstalking want too!. > cyberstalkers post harassing posts of a malicious and libelous nature to > inflame or provoke their targets into responding; -therefore, resuming > communications with persons who have made their malicious intent toward the > target known to the target. > Once a target accepts that the obsessional pursuit of the deranged > cyberstalkers is one inciting the cyberstalkers to pursue a target no matter > how many times a target changes nyms, ISP’s, newsreaders, and forums, then, > the target must IGNORE, ENDURE and work to transcend the cyberstalkers > harassment and libel. > I ignore, endure and seek to transcend the vicious cyberstalking being engaged > in towards me. > I advise bystanders to ignore, endure and work to transcending the > cyberstalkers hostile presence on the ng. > If you posted this message owing to your haven to chose to scapegoat me…for > their aggression…then I will killfile you along with the cyberstalkers and > those who scapegoat targets for the aggressio of abusers. > As I find it abusive to me to be scapegoated by bystanders for the aggression > of cyberstalkers.
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"Jodi" <hellofromj…@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:10nu61snglq914c@corp.supernews.com… > Nuther sock puppet of Lindas. > "Tiffanyattrop
Sigh….ya think? I actually stopped myself the other day from saying "Owing to….something something". Now THAT’s scary! Jo
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Ka1…@charter.net wrote: >Subject: Re: I am sorry >Path: >lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed2.newsreader.com!news
reader.com!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.n et!colt.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!sn-xit-02!sn-xit- 01!sn-post-01!supernews.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail >From: "What about Bob??" ka1…@charter.net >Newsgroups: alt.support.tourette >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:09:40 -0500 >Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com >Message-ID: <10nu4bsoc1fp…@corp.supernews.com> >References: <10nreu26ccvt…@corp.supernews.com> ><yJqdnSxfzsezI-DcRVn…@comcast.com> <417E4BA3.408E…@optonline.net> ><6-qdnTBhdrTN7-PcRVn…@comcast.com> <417E7A01.E0F31…@optonline.net> ><_f6dnWDawaQn4-PcRVn…@comcast.com> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 >X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original >X-Complaints-To: ab…@supernews.com >Lines: 24 >> I dunno…it seems we have our fair share of female bullies…. >> jo >Yes I agree Jo, all that I claim is true but NOT one item she claimed is >true about me…when my late mom saw her get out of my car , my mom cringded >for she knew just what P is about. >My uncle , the teacher at the school she supposedly attended, told she >never came back after the first class. >I could go on but it is as much as a waste of time with those of you who >believe in fantises. >I refer to my real stalkers not P who does not have the ability to do what >they have done…….all she did was to give me a foul taste in my mouth >when it comes to blonds. And where I know live they infest the country >side. Only difference now is that it is legal to carry a firearm here so you >fillin the blanks >P is dead to me as a subject. I make my attacks or "vulgar" references to >others that none of you know about but do lurk and read here…..so if you >don’t like it? >Killfile me or don’t read…………who cares? Not I ahahahahahah
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"What about Bob??" <ka1…@charter.net> wrote in message news:10ntm674kb72h22@corp.supernews.com… > DO NOT want to learn any more………..just want peace and quiet and sex
Peace via freedom from the unwelcome and unwanted communications from malicious persons who have made a conscious decision to destroy them via cyberharassment and malicious defamation is all that ng targets of cyberstalking want too!. The cyberstalkers flame people whom they pursue unwanted and unwelcome communications with by posting the most outrageous and libelous assertions they can think up to try to BAIT the people who don’t want their communications into replying. If they can inflame the target to reply—-that it appears as if it’s a two way street…hence targets have to killfile SPP stalkers and their supplicants. So then the stalkers attempt to flame the target in comversations with other posters on the ng…some of whom argue with the cyberstalkers which subverts each forum into a place where the cyberstalker and those he/she recruit—flame the target. all a target of cyberstalking and malicious libel can do is IGNORE, ENDURE, and seek to transcend it. Bystanders ought to do the same….really. You see what’s happened to JMM and Nonitpic for expressing objection to what’s occuring on AST—-and I notice Sara has decided AST is too sick a place for her to participate in. You know who the malicious gossips are…and who tries to post on topic, supportive posts. killfile the malicious gossips…and read the few remaining posters who contineu to post on topic …supportive posts.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jo Cohen wrote: > "TSN" <t…@optonline.net> wrote in message > news:417E4BA3.408E5A6@optonline.net… > > Jo Cohen wrote: > > > "What about Bob??" <ka1…@charter.net> wrote in message > > > news:10nreu26ccvtaf9@corp.supernews.com… > > > > But this flaming BS is not truely about TS and in fact with some > of > > > us , > > > > makes our TS worse. That said, instead of helping here on ast > you > > > have > > > > successfully stopped those of us with serious TS symptoms from > > > posting to > > > > get help, support or to vent. THAT is what ast is for not the > > > flaming crap > > > > it has turned into. > > > > I may lose what little support I still had here, but FUCK > it……I > > > have > > > > gone it alone most of my life so what is one more dysfuctional > > > > family…….FUCK you and the horse you are mating with! > > > Sigh…I agree with Bob….not about the horse, but about the > ranting > > > in general….it is very negative and doesn’t seem to add much to > the > > > quality of AST…. > > > Jo > > And, of course, you’ll agree that what he has done to P. all these > years > > is EXACTLY the same as what he is now complaining about??? > > What is it with double standards these days? > > He does it regardless of the fact that she no longer even posts > here, > > that she does nothing to encourage his exceedingly vulgar attacks on > her, > > and then HE claims this ng is about support for those with TS? > > PLEASE !!!!! > > If he wants a support ng, let it begin with him !!! > > And if HE wants to post disgustingly vulgar claims about another > family > > with TS, then let others stand up to him as much as they stand up to > > anyone else who they accuse of disrupting the support here !!! > OK, you have a good point here. Bob, we’ve asked you before to not > post vulgar stuff about P. or any other "AST ladies". > Jo
Thanks, Jo. I am increasingly troubled by the way it seems to be OK to attack women on ast, with a minority of men defending the bullies. — Tourette Syndrome – Now What? http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com
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> Thanks, Jo. > I am increasingly troubled by the way it seems to be OK to attack women on > ast, with a minority of men defending the bullies. > — > Tourette Syndrome – Now What? > http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com
I dunno…it seems we have our fair share of female bullies…. jo
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>I dunno…it seems we have our fair share of female bullies….
That too )
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -TSN wrote: > Andy Booth wrote: >>Pablo wrote: >>>"Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> wrote in message >>>news:yJqdnSxfzsezI-DcRVn-pg@comcast.com… >>>>"What about Bob??" <ka1…@charter.net> wrote in message >>>>news:10nreu26ccvtaf9@corp.supernews.com… >>>>>But this flaming BS is not truely about TS and in fact with some of >>>>us , >>>>>makes our TS worse. That said, instead of helping here on ast you >>>>have >>>>>successfully stopped those of us with serious TS symptoms from >>>>posting to >>>>>get help, support or to vent. THAT is what ast is for not the >>>>flaming crap >>>>>it has turned into. >>>>>I may lose what little support I still had here, but FUCK it……I >>>>have >>>>>gone it alone most of my life so what is one more dysfuctional >>>>>family…….FUCK you and the horse you are mating with! >>>>Sigh…I agree with Bob….not about the horse, but about the ranting >>>>in general….it is very negative and doesn’t seem to add much to the >>>>quality of AST…. >>>>Jo >>>I am up for suggestions. >>>Pablo >>Suggestion: Just "take it outside"….? If there isn’t already a place, >>drop a proposal into alt.config for alt.tourettes.arguments, there >>certainly seems a need for it….:( >>luv >>Andy > Nice suggestion, Andy, but you wouldn’t get Linda to use it. > She frequents support newsgroups.
Sounds like the same sticking point to a good plan as getting the posters claiming "ADHD is just a myth" or "ADHD is just a bogus diagnosis made up by the APA (or the pharmaceutical companies, or schools, or a conspiracy involving any combination thereof)," to post to alt.support.attn-deficit.doesn’t-exist instead of ASAD. No matter how many times a ASAD poster points out that there’s a newsgroup just for disbelievers, they simply refuse to post there. You know, as far-fetched as it may seem, it kind of makes me think some people post in ngs just to stir up trouble. 
Nancy Unique, like everyone else
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"Pablo" <n…@yes.com> wrote in message
news:Nelfd.8843$ta5.8280@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:yJqdnSxfzsezI-DcRVn-pg@comcast.com… > > "What about Bob??" <ka1…@charter.net> wrote in message > > news:10nreu26ccvtaf9@corp.supernews.com… > > > But this flaming BS is not truely about TS and in fact with some of > > us , > > > makes our TS worse. That said, instead of helping here on ast you > > have > > > successfully stopped those of us with serious TS symptoms from > > posting to > > > get help, support or to vent. THAT is what ast is for not the > > flaming crap > > > it has turned into. > > > I may lose what little support I still had here, but FUCK it……I > > have > > > gone it alone most of my life so what is one more dysfuctional > > > family…….FUCK you and the horse you are mating with! > > Sigh…I agree with Bob….not about the horse, but about the ranting > > in general….it is very negative and doesn’t seem to add much to the > > quality of AST…. > > Jo > I am up for suggestions. > Pablo
Actually, I’m not up for suggestions. I am going to bed. ;-)
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Linda wrote: > The only persons whose behavior I assume responsibility for is MINE.
Please do, for a change. > I have posted Notices to the following persons currently cyberharassing and > maliciously defaming me on AST.
Linda "nuke ‘em" Gore has found a use for Google. She has actually made a post that she has not later nuked form the archives!!! > I also posted similiar notices to Mark Morin, an estranged relative,
Mark Morin is your estranged relative? Wow. Your family tree gets better all the time. > and > three inadequately treated bipolars cyberharassing me on the med ng.
When you say "bipolars," do you mean persons with bipolar disorder? > Having informed the above malicious persons their malicious communications are > unwanted and unwelcome—
All that without providing an example of the behaviors you allege. > cyberrstalkers—and chose instead to cope with their demonic stalking by > IGNORING,
Please, please, please DO ignore us. We would be thrilled ! > Naturally, my physicians are documenting the physical illness I present with
Sounds like your physicians are as good as your lawyers. If they’re documenting how ill Usenet makes you, they should be telling you to stop engaging in something that makes you so ill. > while being so viciously cyberstalked and maliciously defamed and libeled, > and my survivors
Survivors? Planning on leaving us soon? Or just having a minor engage in your Usenet fantasy? Example of libel and defamation, please. > have documented and continued to document all the stalkers > cyberharassment and malicious defamation of me, so my survivors can hold the > stalkers criminally or civilly liable for any harm their malicious pursuit of > unwanted communications to me is demonstrated to have caused me or my > survivors.
They’ve got no case, dear. If Usenet is so bad for your health that it’s killing you, it would be up to you to leave Usenet. It’s kind of like people trying to sue McDonald’s for making them fat. > Since my being viciously stalked incites distres and anxiety which in turn > induces tics, especially in my posts..
How DOES one tic "especially in posts?" > One of the AST’s most recent casualities of the control freakery running amok > on AST….suggested there’s a real great book on anxiety related tics. > "Freeing Your Child from Anxiety." by Tamar Chansky’s.
It’s written for parents. Who’s your papi? > woman whose TICCING primarily consists in ticcing in posts owing to anxiety > arising from having been cyberstalked for years.
Ticcing in posts, again. > have to cope with their SHIT, or watch it.
So, when we ask that people stop being vulgar to the "ast ladies," you’re exempt, huh? > IF your message was addressed to me, cause you too are scapegoating me for > THEIR behavior–I will killfile you—
Since you’ve now got most of the ng killfiled according to you, PLEASE do follow up on your promise to start ignoring us, so we can go back to talking about tics that happen "especially" in real life. — Tourette Syndrome – Now What? http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Linda wrote: >>Subject: I am sorry >>From: "What about Bob??" ka1…@charter.net >>Date: 10/25/04 7:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time >>Message-id: <10nreu26ccvt…@corp.supernews.com> >>But this flaming BS is not truely about TS and in fact with some of us , >>makes our TS worse. That said, instead of helping here on ast you have >>successfully stopped those of us with serious TS symptoms from posting to >>get help, support or to vent. THAT is what ast is for not the flaming crap >>it has turned into. >>I may lose what little support I still had here, but FUCK it……I have >>gone it alone most of my life so what is one more dysfuctional >>family…….FUCK you and the horse you are mating with! > I don’t know who you are talking to. > I cope with the vicious cyberharassment and malicious defamation being engaged > in towards me the best I can. > And, the best I can is good enough for me. > I assume NO responsibility for the malicious posts of persons whose > derangement incites them to seek vengence upon me for rejecting > "relationships" with them, by their vindictively obsessionally pursuing me > from forum to forum and viciously cyberharassing and maliciously defame me.in > pursuit of unwanted and unwelcome communications with me. > I assume NO responsibility for the behavior of any of the many bystanders who > chose to scapegoat the target of vicious cyberstalking to justify the > bystanders participating in the vicious and malicious pack attacks and > cyberlynchings of cyberstalking targets they choe to participate in. . > I assume NO responsibility for any action the SPP stalkers professional peers > take owing professional peers belief the SPP stalkers are publicly disgracing > the psychology profession and/or engaging in unethical behavior by misuing > their training to abuse private citizens on usenet. > I assume NO responsibility for the reactions or behavior of the many other > targets of the SPP stalkers malicious cyberharassment and defamation in other > support groups, or in the paranormal, scientology, conspiracy theory, AUK, > troll, etc forums. > The only persons whose behavior I assume responsibility for is MINE. > My reaction consists of the following: > Anytime a poster whose identity or alias is known to me posts a communication > to me or about me where they express a malicious intent towards me or a threat > to "DO" something about me or my posting to my ng’s, I post a notice to > the malicious person that their communications are unwelcome and unwanted by > me. > I have posted Notices to the following persons currently cyberharassing and > maliciously defaming me on AST. > 11/23/01 Notice to Deborah Bentley of Tampa Bay Florida — . > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9tm4qi%24e2f%240%40dosa.alt.net&… > t=gplain > 1/30/04 Notice to Pablo aka John Doe > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=101l4qgd5ea4j4d%40news20.fortein… > &output=gplain > 10/15/04 Notice to Dan L. Rogers aka Frye > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20041014210109.04552.00003584%40… > 7.aol.com&output=gplain. > 10/25/04 Notice to TSNW > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b4561f33.0410251044.582a79de%40p… > g.google.com&output=gplain > I also posted similiar notices to Mark Morin, an estranged relative, and > three inadequately treated bipolars cyberharassing me on the med ng. > Having informed the above malicious persons their malicious communications are > unwanted and unwelcome—and being aware their derangement is one includes > obsessional pursuiing me no mattter what nym, ISP, newsreader, forum I > participate in, I have ceased engaging in measures to hide from these > cyberrstalkers—and chose instead to cope with their demonic stalking by > IGNORING, ENDURING and seeking to transcend my having such deranged and > vindictive people stalking me. > Naturally, my physicians are documenting the physical illness I present with > while being so viciously cyberstalked and maliciously defamed and libeled, > and my survivors have documented and continued to document all the stalkers > cyberharassment and malicious defamation of me, so my survivors can hold the > stalkers criminally or civilly liable for any harm their malicious pursuit of > unwanted communications to me is demonstrated to have caused me or my > survivors. > Since my being viciously stalked incites distres and anxiety which in turn > induces tics, especially in my posts…I have been looking for help in > reducing the anxiety inducing my ticcing so badly so LATE IN LIFE. . > One of the AST’s most recent casualities of the control freakery running amok > on AST….suggested there’s a real great book on anxiety related tics. > "Freeing Your Child from Anxiety." by Tamar Chansky’s. > According to a book review > "In Freeing Your Child From Anxiety, a childhood anxiety disorder specialist > examines all manifestations of childhood fears, including social anxiety, > Tourette
