Tourette's & Prozac
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I feel so much for you.. wer’re going from ADHD to TS and mine is 12..isso tiring but putting a name to it is helping..
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"Dawnee" <richd…@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:19765519.0402191135.42657e20@posting.google.com… > Hello everyone. I haven’t posted for awhile, just lurking. Anyway, > my dau. took Prozac for her depression after she was diagnosed with > TS. Her behavior became bizaar and she involved herself in risky > behaviors. I kept asking the doctor if Prozac could be contributing > to this since her father was bipolar. They would say, no, she needs > this medication. After almost 2 l/2 yrs. of Prozac, no relief from > depression, wide mood swings, bizaar and risky behavior, I put my foot > down and took her off Prozac myself. Viola! We now have our old > daughter back. No depression, no risky behaviors, very responsible, > respectful child with no mood swings, other than the usual PMS, etc.
Hey, wait a minute. I was doing risky things without Prozac. But I guess that it must have been my PMS. Can guys have PMS? NO? Well I guess that I’ll have to find another excuse. Could it be from a lack of newkey? Well, that’s my story and I’m stickin to it. <LMAO> I’m not making light of your issue. I’m just in a weird mood tonight. Mark
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My brother was diagnosed with Tourette’s when he was 8. He has been on every med under the sun it seems like including Prozac. It helped some with the obsession but seemed to make his tics worse not to mention getting off of Prozac is a gradual thing. You can’t just quit cold turkey. He is now 21 and on Risperdol for his Tourette’s which seems to be the only thing that has helped him.
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"Captain Spanky" <captainspi…@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b7rp30dj6ctlotheedohuelt3smb064bhi@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello Group, > I posted a reply to this thread but think my ISP lost it……..so > here goes > again. > I was on prozac for about 5 years and think it helped. > I stopped taking it a few years back as it did’nt seem to be working > anymore. I noticed more intense emotions at first but nothing much. > Got depressed over New year and started taking it again. Initialy it > really > helped but i think it increased my anxiety and tics. But the last two > weeks > I got severly down. I stoped taking it a few days ago and felt better > at > first, BUT……I started getting a bit hyper and doing impulsive > things at > college ( I’m 37 but acted like I was 15). I I popped one last night > and it > bought me about level again. > So as stated by others in this group ( but I don’t read for long > periods of > time cause I’m dyslexic and TS so my attention span > is……….errr……..can i play on the swing now LOL 
differnet > drug > have differnet effect on people and even the opposite effect of what > they > are supposed to do. > I’ve been prescribed Seroxat (paxil in the US) but haven’t got the > letter > from the hospital outpatient sent to my GP yet. (Ever get the feeling > that > they don’t think mental pain is not as bad as Pysical pain…..they > should > try it sum time). > I read the below and that seems to be possitive about paxil. The > shrinks > said it should help with repetitive thoughts and tics (mine aren’t > tooo bad, > thank god). > Anyone else had Seroxat/Paxil???
I was on PaxilCR, it worked for a while then it seemed to stop working. I was going to ask the doc for a dosage increase but decided to wean myself off of it. One of the docs I work with helped me on this, which made it a lot easier to manage. I seemed to be more aware of my tics now than before, though the tics have subsided a lot since I first started to wean myself. During that time they got really bad, to the point I didn’t want to leave my office anymore. Prozac put me in happy land. I’ve never been a walking ray of sunshine but while on Prozac I was one. I made it a year on that before I couldn’t handle it anymore. 
That was an easy drug to kick, very easy. One of the guys at work was wanting to try some "tapping" treatment on me, he’s been talking about how great it was – then he was informed that the guy "Training" him was a quack. Glad I didn’t become part of that experiment. Certain events/places trigger me more than others. Work sets it off since I really dislike my job. Some staff I work with do it also, esp those who are super demanding. One doc gets to me so much to hear his voice puts me on the edge. I know, "leave that place". I’m working on it.
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blah blah woof woof <rye…@trappedmail.com> wrote in message news:wjH%b.31358$GA5.29429@bignews5.bellsouth.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Captain Spanky" <captainspi…@clara.co.uk> wrote in message > news:b7rp30dj6ctlotheedohuelt3smb064bhi@4ax.com… > > Hello Group, > > I posted a reply to this thread but think my ISP lost it……..so > > here goes > > again. > > I was on prozac for about 5 years and think it helped. > > I stopped taking it a few years back as it did’nt seem to be working > > anymore. I noticed more intense emotions at first but nothing much. > > Got depressed over New year and started taking it again. Initialy it > > really > > helped but i think it increased my anxiety and tics. But the last two > > weeks > > I got severly down. I stoped taking it a few days ago and felt better > > at > > first, BUT……I started getting a bit hyper and doing impulsive > > things at > > college ( I’m 37 but acted like I was 15). I I popped one last night > > and it > > bought me about level again. > > So as stated by others in this group ( but I don’t read for long > > periods of > > time cause I’m dyslexic and TS so my attention span > > is……….errr……..can i play on the swing now LOL differnet > > drug > > have differnet effect on people and even the opposite effect of what > > they > > are supposed to do. > > I’ve been prescribed Seroxat (paxil in the US) but haven’t got the > > letter > > from the hospital outpatient sent to my GP yet. (Ever get the feeling > > that > > they don’t think mental pain is not as bad as Pysical pain…..they > > should > > try it sum time). > > I read the below and that seems to be possitive about paxil. The > > shrinks > > said it should help with repetitive thoughts and tics (mine aren’t > > tooo bad, > > thank god). > > Anyone else had Seroxat/Paxil??? > I was on PaxilCR, it worked for a while then it seemed to stop working. I > was going to ask the doc for a dosage increase but decided to wean myself > off of it. One of the docs I work with helped me on this, which made it a > lot easier to manage. > I seemed to be more aware of my tics now than before, though the tics have > subsided a lot since I first started to wean myself. During that time they > got really bad, to the point I didn’t want to leave my office anymore. > Prozac put me in happy land. I’ve never been a walking ray of sunshine but > while on Prozac I was one. I made it a year on that before I couldn’t handle > it anymore. That was an easy drug to kick, very easy. > One of the guys at work was wanting to try some "tapping" treatment on me, > he’s been talking about how great it was – then he was informed that the guy > "Training" him was a quack. Glad I didn’t become part of that experiment. > Certain events/places trigger me more than others. Work sets it off since I > really dislike my job. Some staff I work with do it also, esp those who are > super demanding. One doc gets to me so much to hear his voice puts me on the > edge. I know, "leave that place". I’m working on it.
HI, How long did the paxil help you for before it pooped out? Did it help anxiety, tics and depression or just one or two symptoms? I have heard nightmare stories about paxil withdrawals, but when U getting to the end of your tether U’ll try anything. Any anyway if it works for 4 or 5 years as the prozac did for me then at least it will help me get through college so I can get a desent job. Hey! Tell me about irritating a-holes. I’m at college and one kid is hyperative ( he should "way yes" be on Ritolin, he’s a danger to himself and others) and he really puts me on edge. So i really understand how being stuck in an office would be bad. I’m hoping to work outside Rangering. To be hostest I find being with people very tiring, even family. What’s "Tapping", I’ve never heard of this? My Bro who suffers with depression is trying this Cognitive thearapy by Carlson, where U moniter your thoughts and dismiss negative ones etc. Regards Spanky aka AL — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 – Release Date: 20/02/04
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"Dawnee" <richd…@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:19765519.0402191135.42657e20@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello everyone. I haven’t posted for awhile, just lurking. Anyway, > my dau. took Prozac for her depression after she was diagnosed with > TS. Her behavior became bizaar and she involved herself in risky > behaviors. I kept asking the doctor if Prozac could be contributing > to this since her father was bipolar. They would say, no, she needs > this medication. After almost 2 l/2 yrs. of Prozac, no relief from > depression, wide mood swings, bizaar and risky behavior, I put my foot > down and took her off Prozac myself. Viola! We now have our old > daughter back. No depression, no risky behaviors, very responsible, > respectful child with no mood swings, other than the usual PMS, etc. > I am absolutely convinced that my daughter taking Prozac turned her > life upside down. Oh, if we could have had hind sight, we would have > taken her off this drug. > Meds work differently with different people. Just be very, very > careful.
I’m new here but I can atest to this. I had a nasty bought of depression that landed me in the hospital a few years ago and they put me on Paxil to help me stabilize. It worked. (I had been on prozac a few years earlier and it made me too happy so with my doc’s help I weaned myself off of it). After several years of Paxil I noticed that I seemed to be getting worse – so I talked to my doc, who said that if the cause of the depression was past I could wean myself off of it (he’s not my original doc but a well trust coworker who is a staff doc where I work). I weaned myself off of it. The results? I still have depressive days (once in a while they’re "bad", but not horrible) but my mood is so much better. I’ve been med free for 6 months and it feels GREAT.
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Hello Group, I posted a reply to this thread but think my ISP lost it……..so here goes again. I was on prozac for about 5 years and think it helped. I stopped taking it a few years back as it did’nt seem to be working anymore. I noticed more intense emotions at first but nothing much. Got depressed over New year and started taking it again. Initialy it really helped but i think it increased my anxiety and tics. But the last two weeks I got severly down. I stoped taking it a few days ago and felt better at first, BUT……I started getting a bit hyper and doing impulsive things at college ( I’m 37 but acted like I was 15). I I popped one last night and it bought me about level again. So as stated by others in this group ( but I don’t read for long periods of time cause I’m dyslexic and TS so my attention span is……….errr……..can i play on the swing now LOL differnet drug have differnet effect on people and even the opposite effect of what they are supposed to do. I’ve been prescribed Seroxat (paxil in the US) but haven’t got the letter from the hospital outpatient sent to my GP yet. (Ever get the feeling that they don’t think mental pain is not as bad as Pysical pain…..they should try it sum time). I read the below and that seems to be possitive about paxil. The shrinks said it should help with repetitive thoughts and tics (mine aren’t tooo bad, thank god). Anyone else had Seroxat/Paxil??? Many thanks Spanky aka AL On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:09:10 -0500, "blah blah woof woof" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<rye…@trappedmail.com> wrote: >"Dawnee" <richd…@adelphia.net> wrote in message >news:19765519.0402191135.42657e20@posting.google.com… >> Hello everyone. I haven’t posted for awhile, just lurking. Anyway, >> my dau. took Prozac for her depression after she was diagnosed with >> TS. Her behavior became bizaar and she involved herself in risky >> behaviors. I kept asking the doctor if Prozac could be contributing >> to this since her father was bipolar. They would say, no, she needs >> this medication. After almost 2 l/2 yrs. of Prozac, no relief from >> depression, wide mood swings, bizaar and risky behavior, I put my foot >> down and took her off Prozac myself. Viola! We now have our old >> daughter back. No depression, no risky behaviors, very responsible, >> respectful child with no mood swings, other than the usual PMS, etc. >> I am absolutely convinced that my daughter taking Prozac turned her >> life upside down. Oh, if we could have had hind sight, we would have >> taken her off this drug. >> Meds work differently with different people. Just be very, very >> careful. >I’m new here but I can atest to this. I had a nasty bought of depression >that landed me in the hospital a few years ago and they put me on Paxil to >help me stabilize. It worked. (I had been on prozac a few years earlier and >it made me too happy so with my doc’s help I weaned myself off of it). >After several years of Paxil I noticed that I seemed to be getting worse – >so I talked to my doc, who said that if the cause of the depression was past >I could wean myself off of it (he’s not my original doc but a well trust >coworker who is a staff doc where I work). I weaned myself off of it. The >results? I still have depressive days (once in a while they’re "bad", but >not horrible) but my mood is so much better. I’ve been med free for 6 months >and it feels GREAT.
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There is (or at least was a few months ago) a warning on the FDA Consumer Information Website for Strattera when used with SSRI’s. My son had a bad reaction after his first dosage of Prozac after being on Strattera for a month. I found the warning after googling "Prozac and Strattera", after I received a forwarded email on another list from a social worker who had a young client who was hospitalized after combining the two. He’d had seizures. This may be dosage related; however you may want to check into it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Help" <tomde…@charter.net> wrote in message <news:1034cnc8so4q332@corp.supernews.com>… > My 6 year old son has been diagnosed with Tourette’s, OCD, and ADHD. He has > been on Straterra 36mg and Clonidine. This has been effective, but his Tic’s > are still pretty bad and his OCD"he is always stuck in one thought" is still > pretty bad. He was on Lexapro for his OCD which was very effective taking > away his obsessive thoughts, but had terrrible side effects from it…so off > of that he went after 3 months of praying for it to level off and be the one > for him. So the doc exchanged the LEXAPRO for the Clonodine….hmm no rage > side effects that he had on Lexapro, but really no help with his thoughts. > So now she has written me a script for PROZAC…I have never heard of a 6 > year old on PROZAC. She said that it will be very benificial with his OCD > and surpress his TIC"S ..Does anyone have any knowledge of this??? Please > help, I am quite reseverved about PROZAC, but I don’t want to deny my son > Tic and OCD thought relief… > . The Straterra had definetly put him on > the right "focus" track, but we can’t seem to find a "tic," "obsessive > thought relieving" > drug for him. His teachers love him and say he is a great kid, sometimes has > vocal outbursts(normal for Tourette’s) and always takes a break to go into a > corner to "Tic" between classes. His teachers are great with them, I have > educated his school, and all the faculty and I am very happy with the way > they his socail skills and education are on the right track. However he > tells me he want’s his head to quit telling him stuff, and sometimes he > tic’s to the point of exhuastion. Any one have some suggestions, > Psycologists and Psychait. MD have been seen and we have been told he does > not need this form of treatment that medication will set him on the right > path. We have been through quite a few drugs, and I know trial and error, > and esp. PATIENCE is the key, but I FEEL FOR HIM, cause he is so INTELLIGENT > and he realizes what is going on and asks me every day if there is someting > else we could try to help him.any of you thoughts would be > greatly APPRECIATED. TAKE CARE! Deena Mother of a FANTASTIC< WONDERFUL > 6 year old son.
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Sesgardner wrote: >>So the doc exchanged the LEXAPRO for the Clonodine….hmm no rage >>side effects that he had on Lexapro, but really no help with his thoughts. > If he had rage attacks with Lexapro, I’m quite surprised she would try Prozac. > You may want to get a second opinion if you haven’t already started the Prozac.
Really? I have discovered that I don’t rage at all since I switched to Prozac from Lexapro. This may be a YMMV item. I was on Buspar with both of these, so I don’t think that made a whole lot of difference. -Greg G
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> Really? I have discovered that I don’t rage at all since I switched >to Prozac from Lexapro
But you are not a child, at least you don’t sound like one. It’s very different for children. Sara
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>Subject: Tourette’s & Prozac >From: "Help" tomde…@charter.net >Date: 2/17/04 7:27 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <1034cnc8so4q…@corp.supernews.com>
Hi Deena: Doctor’s receive higher kickbacks for prescribing newer meds–so a lot of them prescribe the newest in a class of meds, first. . Likely why the pdoc initially prescribed Lexapro—an SSRI, rather the most benign member of that particularly potent class of meds—Prozac (whose patent has expired) I took SSRI’s on and off for years to augment my treatment for thyroid disease, owing to the anergiac depression accompanies thyroid disease when in a hypothyroid state. I had to stop taking SSRI’s because as the years went by, I was having increasingly disconcerting side, adverse, and paradoxical effects from them. One of worse effects was that the SSRI’s were making my increasingly bad PMS more like PMDD—owing to feeling like my blood was boiling over, which I guess is a type of inexplicable rage. I was able to totally relieve all my symptoms of PMS, especially the irritabily and any inexplicable anger/rage, (for the first time in my life)—-by taking Vitamin’s especially B-100 complex. You might want to check out bontech’s, a TS mom, website about vitamin’s, especially vitamin b-complex and magnesiumn for your little one. Linda There’s a lone soldier on the cross, smoke pourin’ out of a boxcar door, You didn’t know it, you didn’t think it could be done, in the final end he won the wars After losin’ every battle. —Bob Dylan Idiot Wind
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Hi, I’ve been prescribed Seroxat ( UK name) which is Paxil in the US. I’ve not heard of Strattera, is it a stimulant like Ritolin? I’m sorry to hear about your bad expierience. You would think that the interaction would be known to the Drs. In UK we have the BNF (British National Formulary) , no doubt you have similar in US, which list interactions. Pleased to say the two young shrinks that saw me had a good look through it to choose my meds. Best Wishes Spanky aka AL On 25 Feb 2004 20:49:12 -0800, candk…@yahoo.com (Cecelia) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->There is (or at least was a few months ago) a warning on the FDA >Consumer Information Website for Strattera when used with SSRI’s. My >son had a bad reaction after his first dosage of Prozac after being on >Strattera for a month. I found the warning after googling "Prozac and >Strattera", after I received a forwarded email on another list from a >social worker who had a young client who was hospitalized after >combining the two. He’d had seizures. >This may be dosage related; however you may want to check into it. >"Help" <tomde…@charter.net> wrote in message <news:1034cnc8so4q332@corp.supernews.com>… >> My 6 year old son has been diagnosed with Tourette’s, OCD, and ADHD. He has >> been on Straterra 36mg and Clonidine. This has been effective, but his Tic’s >> are still pretty bad and his OCD"he is always stuck in one thought" is still >> pretty bad. He was on Lexapro for his OCD which was very effective taking >> away his obsessive thoughts, but had terrrible side effects from it…so off >> of that he went after 3 months of praying for it to level off and be the one >> for him. So the doc exchanged the LEXAPRO for the Clonodine….hmm no rage >> side effects that he had on Lexapro, but really no help with his thoughts. >> So now she has written me a script for PROZAC…I have never heard of a 6 >> year old on PROZAC. She said that it will be very benificial with his OCD >> and surpress his TIC"S ..Does anyone have any knowledge of this??? Please >> help, I am quite reseverved about PROZAC, but I don’t want to deny my son >> Tic and OCD thought relief… >> . The Straterra had definetly put him on >> the right "focus" track, but we can’t seem to find a "tic," "obsessive >> thought relieving" >> drug for him. His teachers love him and say he is a great kid, sometimes has >> vocal outbursts(normal for Tourette’s) and always takes a break to go into a >> corner to "Tic" between classes. His teachers are great with them, I have >> educated his school, and all the faculty and I am very happy with the way >> they his socail skills and education are on the right track. However he >> tells me he want’s his head to quit telling him stuff, and sometimes he >> tic’s to the point of exhuastion. Any one have some suggestions, >> Psycologists and Psychait. MD have been seen and we have been told he does >> not need this form of treatment that medication will set him on the right >> path. We have been through quite a few drugs, and I know trial and error, >> and esp. PATIENCE is the key, but I FEEL FOR HIM, cause he is so INTELLIGENT >> and he realizes what is going on and asks me every day if there is someting >> else we could try to help him.any of you thoughts would be >> greatly APPRECIATED. TAKE CARE! Deena Mother of a FANTASTIC< WONDERFUL >> 6 year old son.
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>You might want to check out bontech’s, a TS mom, website about vitamin’s, >especially vitamin b-complex and magnesiumn for your little one.
Very good advice, vitamin supplementation, espeically magnesium, can be quite helpful. Sara
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Hello everyone. I haven’t posted for awhile, just lurking. Anyway, my dau. took Prozac for her depression after she was diagnosed with TS. Her behavior became bizaar and she involved herself in risky behaviors. I kept asking the doctor if Prozac could be contributing to this since her father was bipolar. They would say, no, she needs this medication. After almost 2 l/2 yrs. of Prozac, no relief from depression, wide mood swings, bizaar and risky behavior, I put my foot down and took her off Prozac myself. Viola! We now have our old daughter back. No depression, no risky behaviors, very responsible, respectful child with no mood swings, other than the usual PMS, etc. I am absolutely convinced that my daughter taking Prozac turned her life upside down. Oh, if we could have had hind sight, we would have taken her off this drug. Meds work differently with different people. Just be very, very careful. Dawnee
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My 6 year old son has been diagnosed with Tourette’s, OCD, and ADHD. He has been on Straterra 36mg and Clonidine. This has been effective, but his Tic’s are still pretty bad and his OCD"he is always stuck in one thought" is still pretty bad. He was on Lexapro for his OCD which was very effective taking away his obsessive thoughts, but had terrrible side effects from it…so off of that he went after 3 months of praying for it to level off and be the one for him. So the doc exchanged the LEXAPRO for the Clonodine….hmm no rage side effects that he had on Lexapro, but really no help with his thoughts. So now she has written me a script for PROZAC…I have never heard of a 6 year old on PROZAC. She said that it will be very benificial with his OCD and surpress his TIC"S ..Does anyone have any knowledge of this??? Please help, I am quite reseverved about PROZAC, but I don’t want to deny my son Tic and OCD thought relief… . The Straterra had definetly put him on the right "focus" track, but we can’t seem to find a "tic," "obsessive thought relieving" drug for him. His teachers love him and say he is a great kid, sometimes has vocal outbursts(normal for Tourette’s) and always takes a break to go into a corner to "Tic" between classes. His teachers are great with them, I have educated his school, and all the faculty and I am very happy with the way they his socail skills and education are on the right track. However he tells me he want’s his head to quit telling him stuff, and sometimes he tic’s to the point of exhuastion. Any one have some suggestions, Psycologists and Psychait. MD have been seen and we have been told he does not need this form of treatment that medication will set him on the right path. We have been through quite a few drugs, and I know trial and error, and esp. PATIENCE is the key, but I FEEL FOR HIM, cause he is so INTELLIGENT and he realizes what is going on and asks me every day if there is someting else we could try to help him.any of you thoughts would be greatly APPRECIATED. TAKE CARE! Deena Mother of a FANTASTIC< WONDERFUL 6 year old son.
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> So the doc exchanged the LEXAPRO for the Clonodine….hmm no rage >side effects that he had on Lexapro, but really no help with his thoughts.
If he had rage attacks with Lexapro, I’m quite surprised she would try Prozac. You may want to get a second opinion if you haven’t already started the Prozac. If he starts having rage attacks on that, you may need a Mood Stabilizer medication. In my opinion, and the opinion of many, children should be prescribed antidepressants with extreme caution. If he’s already had a negative response, even more caution is advised. A good place to find more information is http://www.bipolarchild.com/newsletters/9911.html (not sure if that link will work – if not, will someone who knows how to do it please help!) This does NOT mean your child is bipolar, just that antidepressants can cause this effect in children. And mood stabilizers can help. Check with your doctor, and another doctor if you are not satisfied with the first one. YOU are in charge of your child’s health. Please know that I am NOT A DOCTOR, just a mom who’s been through what you’ve described in your post. Sara
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>This does NOT mean your child is bipolar
And thanks for writing this. The OP should know that there are nonprofessionals out there who was pushing the BP diagnosis way too much. I see it on various message boards and ngs around the web.
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> there are nonprofessionals out there who was pushing >the BP diagnosis way too much.
There are professionals who do this as well. Some people seem to think that rage equals bipolar, and this is simply NOT TRUE. Sara
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"Sesgardner" <sesgard…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040217113206.17130.00002240@mb-m03.aol.com… > > So the doc exchanged the LEXAPRO for the Clonodine….hmm no rage > >side effects that he had on Lexapro, but really no help with his thoughts. > If he had rage attacks with Lexapro, I’m quite surprised she would try Prozac. > You may want to get a second opinion if you haven’t already started the
Prozac. Sarah makes a very good point, here. Please be VERY careful about using SSRIs for kids! My information on this comes through research on the internet. I have read many accounts of cascading effects from SSRIs in our TS+ kids; I strongly advise you to educate yourself, use your printer, and take some information to your son’s doctors. My son’s father is BiPolar, and I am thanking my stars that I did research before I gave him this prescribed medication… I wish you luck in your TS journey. Hugs, Benita
