Drugging Children: A Collective Decision to ignore, dismiss, discount EVIDENCE, FACTS, REALITY

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On 09 Oct 2004 22:22:20 GMT, lindaglasve…@aol.comnojunk (Linda) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Columns – October 9, 2004 >Commentary: >How depression drugs affect the mind remains mysterious >By SHANNON BROWNLEE >Guest Commentary >———————– >"Psychiatric researchers first reported that the antidepressants known as SSRIs >could spark suicidal thoughts and actions in young patients back in 1990, just >three years after the first major SSRI, Prozac, hit the market. Since then, >there have been thousands of scientific papers published on these medications. >You

New Mexico Suggestions?

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Can anyone suggest neat places/scenic drives/places to stay (cheap and local are fine) in New Mexico? We’ve got 9 days, beginning and ending in Albuquerque. So far, I’m thinking Santa Fe, Taos, Cimmeron, Red Rocks, Old Town, ojo Caliente spa, possibly Carlsbad (but I’ve been there done that), maybe Bosque del Apache for bird photos, Rte 66 through Gallup, Grants if there’s time, Sangre de Christo Mts., Feel free to email if you prefer. Thanks, Jo

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"Linda" <Li…@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:1097199317.tsH9F51K06O9DCRMkr+ozA@teranews… > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:29:07 -0400, "Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> > wrote: > >> > You should definitely go to Tucumcari. > >We will definitely be a travellin’ on the Mother Road…..:)) > Who is "we"?

She and her MOTHER.  If you had been reading from the beginning of the thread, you would have known that.  Instead, you took a bunch of eggs and smashed them against your the front of your head and posted a bunch of crap. > When do you plan to reach the pacific?

Tracking her movements?  Don’t be so stalkish.  ;-) For someone who accuses others of bringing up sex, you sure bring it up often enough. Pablo

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Thanks Sandy, great suggestions! Jo "Sandy L" <hlm…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

news:eV18d.2786$gs1.2769@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:MpednbI5_IVNPf3cRVn-hQ@comcast.com… > > Can anyone suggest neat places/scenic drives/places to stay (cheap and > > local are fine) in New Mexico? > > We’ve got 9 days, beginning and ending in Albuquerque. So far, I’m > > thinking Santa Fe, Taos, Cimmeron, Red Rocks, Old Town, ojo Caliente > > spa, possibly Carlsbad (but I’ve been there done that), maybe Bosque > > del Apache for bird photos, Rte 66 through Gallup, Grants if there’s > > time, Sangre de Christo Mts., > > Feel free to email if you prefer. > > Thanks, > > Jo > If you get south, check out White Sands.  The Mescalero Apaches have a > resort on top of White Mountain; out of ski season it might not be too > costly.  Between Tularosa and Carrizoso, a quick stop at Malpais State Park > is worthwhile; if you’re a city slicker, appreciate the silence. Between > Carrizoso and San Antonio, N.M. (birthplace of Conrad Hilton) is a one-hour > drive across the Jornado del Muerte, a graben fault about 80 miles across > that goes across some delightfully desolate desert (an acquired taste, > perhaps).  The Trinity site is about 50 miles south of the road, but it’s on > the White Sands Missile Range, and I don’t think you can go there. In > Albuquerque, or rather slightly east of Albuquerque, there is a gondola to > the top of a mountain that offers an excellent view.  In the southeast > "suburbs" of Sante Fe, there used to be quite an artists’ colony. > Northwest, in Colorado, there is Mesa Verde National Park.  Close buy there, > a narrow gauge railroad offers a trip from Durango, CO to Silverton, CO that > is fun for them as likes railroads.  I’m not sure what is open at what time > of year.  If  you toCarlsbad, there is always the UFO site and museum near > and in Roswell. > Sandy L

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"Sandy L" <hlm…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

news:eV18d.2786$gs1.2769@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:MpednbI5_IVNPf3cRVn-hQ@comcast.com… > > Can anyone suggest neat places/scenic drives/places to stay (cheap and > > local are fine) in New Mexico? > > We’ve got 9 days, beginning and ending in Albuquerque. So far, I’m > > thinking Santa Fe, Taos, Cimmeron, Red Rocks, Old Town, ojo Caliente > > spa, possibly Carlsbad (but I’ve been there done that), maybe Bosque > > del Apache for bird photos, Rte 66 through Gallup, Grants if there’s > > time, Sangre de Christo Mts., > > Feel free to email if you prefer. > > Thanks, > > Jo > If you get south, check out White Sands.  The Mescalero Apaches have a > resort on top of White Mountain; out of ski season it might not be too > costly.  Between Tularosa and Carrizoso, a quick stop at Malpais State Park > is worthwhile; if you’re a city slicker, appreciate the silence.  Between > Carrizoso and San Antonio, N.M. (birthplace of Conrad Hilton) is a one-hour > drive across the Jornado del Muerte, a graben fault about 80 miles across > that goes across some delightfully desolate desert (an acquired taste, > perhaps).  The Trinity site is about 50 miles south of the road, but it’s on > the White Sands Missile Range, and I don’t think you can go there.  In > Albuquerque, or rather slightly east of Albuquerque, there is a gondola to > the top of a mountain that offers an excellent view.  In the southeast > "suburbs" of Sante Fe, there used to be quite an artists’ colony. > Northwest, in Colorado, there is Mesa Verde National Park.  Close buy there, > a narrow gauge railroad offers a trip from Durango, CO to Silverton, CO that > is fun for them as likes railroads.  I’m not sure what is open at what time > of year.  If  you toCarlsbad, there is always the UFO site and museum near > and in Roswell. > Sandy L

Mesa Verde is GREAT! Pablo

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> > Sandy L > Mesa Verde is GREAT! > Pablo

Yup, been there too. That might be a neat place to re-visit. Jo

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Jojo, I do know one place you have not been in New Mexico nor would you wish to. I am now married so I haev NO more desire to go to any of the 4 brothels I know of LOL Keep away from Aliens there too.(The Xtrestial types)……..I hear they do some weird exams on humans "Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:MpednbI5_IVNPf3cRVn-hQ@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Can anyone suggest neat places/scenic drives/places to stay (cheap and > local are fine) in New Mexico? > We’ve got 9 days, beginning and ending in Albuquerque. So far, I’m > thinking Santa Fe, Taos, Cimmeron, Red Rocks, Old Town, ojo Caliente > spa, possibly Carlsbad (but I’ve been there done that), maybe Bosque > del Apache for bird photos, Rte 66 through Gallup, Grants if there’s > time, Sangre de Christo Mts., > Feel free to email if you prefer. > Thanks, > Jo

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"Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:5dmdnYbyfaNIovzcRVn-iA@comcast.com… > > > Sandy L > > Mesa Verde is GREAT! > > Pablo > Yup, been there too. That might be a neat place to re-visit. > Jo

No, then I would go to the spa.  But that’s just me.  Or that quiet place that Sandy mentioned.  Maybe both places. Leave mom at the spa for a few days and go to the quiet place for a day. Of course, you could drive from Tucson to Tucumcari…if you were willin’ to be movin’.  ;-) Pablo

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> No, then I would go to the spa.  But that’s just me.  Or that quiet place > that Sandy mentioned.  Maybe both places. > Leave mom at the spa for a few days and go to the quiet place for a day. > Of course, you could drive from Tucson to Tucumcari…if you were willin’ to > be movin’.  ;-) > Pablo

We’ll definitely go to ojo caliente- I hear from a few friends it’s wonderful. And yes, we’ll be movin’ along during the entire trip… Jo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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"Jo Cohen" <joco…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:4cSdnZg1Dv9RCP_cRVn-sg@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > No, then I would go to the spa.  But that’s just me.  Or that quiet > place > > that Sandy mentioned.  Maybe both places. > > Leave mom at the spa for a few days and go to the quiet place for a > day. > > Of course, you could drive from Tucson to Tucumcari…if you were > willin’ to > > be movin’.  ;-) > > Pablo > We’ll definitely go to ojo caliente- I hear from a few friends it’s > wonderful. And yes, we’ll be movin’ along during the entire trip… > Jo

If you run into Dallas Alice, tell her I said hi.  ;-) Pablo

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‘Twas Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:24:19 GMT when all alt.support.tourette stood in awe as "Pablo" <n…@yes.com> uttered: >Of course, you could drive from Tucson to Tucumcari…if you were willin’ to >be movin’.  ;-)

You should definitely go to Tucumcari.  I’ve never been to Tucumcari and all I know about Tucumcari is that the railroads met at Tucumcari, but I think it is really fun to say "Tucumcari". — RB |  

English Rules of Thumb

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‘Twas Fri, 01 Oct 2004 21:39:58 -0500 when all alt.support.tourette stood in awe as Fyre Bunsen <F.Bun…@entropy.com> uttered: >But for kicking her ass and running her off this group, I am known as >The Fyre.  And The Fyre will burn her skanky ass.  

Please don’t make trouble.  Please don’t give Linda justification to rant. And for God’s sake, _please_ do not pollute threads were civilized discourse is taking place.  There are enough thread where craziness is occurring.  There was no reason for you to attack this post by Linda. — RB |  

Tropical Storm Blurt

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In article <10kv42h1llo1…@corp.supernews.com>, What about Bob?? wrote: >Things that are claimed to be able to be checked are  not worth the >keystrokes it took to type….

Then stop typing that ugly crap! Blurt

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OK "Hurricane Blurt" <blurtdurtw…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:jl8vk0pjdu3d8qg421ussk04igp935oi2d@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <10kv42h1llo1…@corp.supernews.com>, > What about Bob?? wrote: > >Things that are claimed to be able to be checked are  not worth the > >keystrokes it took to type…. > Then stop typing that ugly crap! > Blurt

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"Hurricane Blurt" <blurtdurtw…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:qctuk0ddccasekntq07j0s2lvbcgtemk96@4ax.com… > Hi.  My name is Blurt.  Tropical Storm Blurt > I might like to subscribe to alt.support.tourette. > I have a question.  Under what circumstances are truth and fairness > important on a.s.t. and under what circumstances are truth and > fairness not so important?

In theory or in practice? Pablo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> TROPICAL STORM WARNING: > The Domain Whether Bureau has issued a Cybertropical Storm Warning for > groups in alt.support.* thru alt.tv* > Tropical Storm Blurt has sustained blurbs in excess of 55 wpm, and is > 300kb off the alt.* domain coast near alt.alien.visitors, moving in an > onshore, scroll-down direction.  Groups in the affected counties are > advised to stay informed of the latest updates, as this storm is > slowly moving over warm waters and is gaining in strength.

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Hi.  My name is Blurt.  Tropical Storm Blurt I might like to subscribe to alt.support.tourette.   I have a question.  Under what circumstances are truth and fairness important on a.s.t. and under what circumstances are truth and fairness not so important? TROPICAL STORM WARNING: The Domain Whether Bureau has issued a Cybertropical Storm Warning for groups in alt.support.* thru alt.tv* Tropical Storm Blurt has sustained blurbs in excess of 55 wpm, and is 300kb off the alt.* domain coast near alt.alien.visitors, moving in an onshore, scroll-down direction.  Groups in the affected counties are advised to stay informed of the latest updates, as this storm is slowly moving over warm waters and is gaining in strength.

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I have found that the telling of UNtruths is the ast way Bald faced lies are the norm while truth scares the panties off most…………… Things that are claimed to be able to be checked are  not worth the keystrokes it took to type…. But there are sluts lurking here…so guys , hide your privates as I know 4 or 5 females that have P—– envey LOL "Hurricane Blurt" <blurtdurtw…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:qctuk0ddccasekntq07j0s2lvbcgtemk96@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi.  My name is Blurt.  Tropical Storm Blurt > I might like to subscribe to alt.support.tourette. > I have a question.  Under what circumstances are truth and fairness > important on a.s.t. and under what circumstances are truth and > fairness not so important? > TROPICAL STORM WARNING: > The Domain Whether Bureau has issued a Cybertropical Storm Warning for > groups in alt.support.* thru alt.tv* > Tropical Storm Blurt has sustained blurbs in excess of 55 wpm, and is > 300kb off the alt.* domain coast near alt.alien.visitors, moving in an > onshore, scroll-down direction.  Groups in the affected counties are > advised to stay informed of the latest updates, as this storm is > slowly moving over warm waters and is gaining in strength.

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About the Forgery stuff

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Thanks for the Hurricane concerns.  Fortunately, we have managed to stay clear of this one, but of course there is another one on the way possibly.  We got some more flooding today.  Partially due to the hurricane that didn’t hit us, partially due to "astronomically high tides" which I still haven’t figured out if that has to do with astronomy and tides or if astronomically mean huge or way above normal to begin with. Unfortunately, not getting hit by Ivan means that someone else will.   Kim

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In article <20040915105837.29600.00000…@mb-m29.aol.com>, NONITPlK wrote: >I believe you, too, Kim, despite others here apparently jumping on the >bandwagon in believing that you DID write both posts.

That appears to be an errant remark.  Who’s jumping on what bandwagon? I saw no bandwagon, and nobody jumping on it. >Anyone here in Ivan’s path?  

Stay safe, everybody!  Good luck the rest of the season, Fay, bluemoon, Bob and Kim!  And anyone else in hurricane country! Blurt

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‘Twas 16 Sep 2004 04:15:07 GMT when all alt.support.tourette stood in awe as auntkim2…@aol.comremove (AuntKim2004) uttered: >Partially due to the hurricane that didn’t hit us, >partially due to "astronomically high tides" which I still haven’t figured out >if that has to do with astronomy and tides or if astronomically mean huge or >way above normal to begin with.

I don’t think it has to do with astronomy.  The only time astronomy is blamed is when it’s a full moon or new moon, and the moon is especially close to the Earth (perigee). Astronomy involves very big distances, so anything with big numbers is called "astronomical". — RB |  

Hola and very good link…

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MamaBen…@comcast.net (antiangstmama) wrote > I have missed y’all! Between switching ISPs and dealing with my kid’s > feeling of ownership of the computer, however, I have found it > difficult to communicate. > But Ben is in school!

Hi Benita! It’s SO nice to see you!!!! Ben’s school sounds great – wow – high school – hard to imagine. My son just started 8th grade. I LOVE your name – antiangstmama!!! Very cool. Thanks for the link – it was very moving. xoxoxo Sara

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In article <59f436c2.0409120715.59362…@posting.google.com>, MamaBen…@comcast.net (antiangstmama) wrote: >Hola, everyone!

Hi Benita! >I have missed y’all!

I’ve missed you, too!  And great hearing about Ben! Blurt

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"antiangstmama" <MamaBen…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:59f436c2.0409120715.59362357@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hola, everyone! > I have missed y’all! Between switching ISPs and dealing with my kid’s > feeling of ownership of the computer, however, I have found it > difficult to communicate. > But Ben is in school! He is starting High School (!) at a Charter > School Academy affiliated with a very respected local museum. It > appears to be a good match for him, both academically and socially. > The IEP meeting is on Tuesday; I am going into this with much more > confidence and knowledge, thanks in great part to the help and support > I recieved from y’all for previous IEPs. > His TS is very much in a waning phase, which certainly makes the start > to this school year easier. In the past, the TS typically kicks into > high gear around Christmas time. I hope effective supports will be in > place before this, should he need them. But at present, he is doing > well and enjoying the new placement! > I also thought you would find this link interesting: > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/12/magazine/12MAINSTREAMING.html > It is about an attempt to create a template for inclusive classrooms > in the New York City schools, and is very moving. > Now that I have found y’all again, I am going to try to catch up with > messages and see what I have missed in your lives and adventures. I am > very relieved to have found you! > Hugs, > Benita

Welcome back, Benita.  I don’t think I was posting here when you were here before.  Sounds like school has started off well.  Good to hear.  I am the father of a son who was diagnosed with TS but who exhibits only mild symptoms.  He is a senior this year, so it’s "his" year.  We have two other sons; he is the middle. Again, welcome back.  :-) Pablo

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Hola, everyone! I have missed y’all! Between switching ISPs and dealing with my kid’s feeling of ownership of the computer, however, I have found it difficult to communicate. But Ben is in school! He is starting High School (!) at a Charter School Academy affiliated with a very respected local museum. It appears to be a good match for him, both academically and socially. The IEP meeting is on Tuesday; I am going into this with much more confidence and knowledge, thanks in great part to the help and support I recieved from y’all for previous IEPs. His TS is very much in a waning phase, which certainly makes the start to this school year easier. In the past, the TS typically kicks into high gear around Christmas time. I hope effective supports will be in place before this, should he need them. But at present, he is doing well and enjoying the new placement! I also thought you would find this link interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/12/magazine/12MAINSTREAMING.html It is about an attempt to create a template for inclusive classrooms in the New York City schools, and is very moving. Now that I have found y’all again, I am going to try to catch up with messages and see what I have missed in your lives and adventures. I am very relieved to have found you! Hugs, Benita

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Welcome back Benita!  Glad your son is doing so well. Jodi "antiangstmama" <MamaBen…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:59f436c2.0409120715.59362357@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Now that I have found y’all again, I am going to try to catch up with > messages and see what I have missed in your lives and adventures. I am > very relieved to have found you! > Hugs, > Benita

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"antiangstmama" <MamaBen…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:59f436c2.0409120715.59362357@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hola, everyone! > I have missed y’all! Between switching ISPs and dealing with my kid’s > feeling of ownership of the computer, however, I have found it > difficult to communicate. > But Ben is in school! He is starting High School (!) at a Charter > School Academy affiliated with a very respected local museum. It > appears to be a good match for him, both academically and socially. > The IEP meeting is on Tuesday; I am going into this with much more > confidence and knowledge, thanks in great part to the help and support > I recieved from y’all for previous IEPs. > His TS is very much in a waning phase, which certainly makes the start > to this school year easier. In the past, the TS typically kicks into > high gear around Christmas time. I hope effective supports will be in > place before this, should he need them. But at present, he is doing > well and enjoying the new placement! > I also thought you would find this link interesting: > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/12/magazine/12MAINSTREAMING.html > It is about an attempt to create a template for inclusive classrooms > in the New York City schools, and is very moving. > Now that I have found y’all again, I am going to try to catch up with > messages and see what I have missed in your lives and adventures. I am > very relieved to have found you! > Hugs, > Benita

Hi!!! Nice to see you again Benita!!! I’m so glad that things are going right for Ben… I remember when you were homeschooling him. — Joanne mom to Mat the Amazing!

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Hola backatcha !!  Glad all is well !

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>Subject: Hola and very good link… >Path: >lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed1.newsreader.com!news

reader.com!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews2.googl e.com!not-for-mail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: MamaBen…@comcast.net  (antiangstmama) >Newsgroups: alt.support.tourette >Date: 12 Sep 2004 08:15:39 -0700 >Organization: http://groups.google.com >Lines: 32 >Message-ID: <59f436c2.0409120715.59362…@posting.google.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.43.97.212 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1095002140 16872 127.0.0.1 (12 Sep 2004 15:15:40 >GMT) >X-Complaints-To: groups-ab…@google.com >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:15:40 +0000 (UTC) >Hola, everyone! >I have missed y’all! Between switching ISPs and dealing with my kid’s >feeling of ownership of the computer, however, I have found it >difficult to communicate. >But Ben is in school! He is starting High School (!) at a Charter >School Academy affiliated with a very respected local museum. It >appears to be a good match for him, both academically and socially. >The IEP meeting is on Tuesday; I am going into this with much more >confidence and knowledge, thanks in great part to the help and support >I recieved from y’all for previous IEPs. >His TS is very much in a waning phase, which certainly makes the start >to this school year easier. In the past, the TS typically kicks into >high gear around Christmas time. I hope effective supports will be in >place before this, should he need them. But at present, he is doing >well and enjoying the new placement! >I also thought you would find this link interesting: >http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/12/magazine/12MAINSTREAMING.html >It is about an attempt to create a template for inclusive classrooms >in the New York City schools, and is very moving. >Now that I have found y’all again, I am going to try to catch up with >messages and see what I have missed in your lives and adventures. I am >very relieved to have found you! >Hugs, >Benita

Glad to hear things are so rosy.   Thanx  for the link.   things Linda Do not tell me that assholes who track and follow me around usenet into forum after forum and post untrue BS about me aren’t cyberstalking me,  unless you are prepared to have me tell you what an asshole you are. .

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A Party To Remember

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Pablo" <n…@yes.com> wrote in message <news:rGd1d.46$mb6.4@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>… > "Linda" <lindaglasve…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message > news:20040912173037.29660.00004472@mb-m16.aol.com… > > >Subject: Re: A Party To Remember > > >Path: > > >lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed2.newsreader.com!news >  reader.com!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!postnews2.google.com!not-for-mail > > >From: chefs…@cox.net  (Sara) > > >Newsgroups: alt.support.tourette > > >Date: 12 Sep 2004 10:09:37 -0700 > > >Organization: http://groups.google.com > > >Lines: 16 > > >Message-ID: <e8c834be.0409120909.705fd…@posting.google.com> > > >References: <20040912010617.03847.00000…@mb-m10.aol.com> > > >NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.4.108.116 > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1095008977 22673 127.0.0.1 (12 Sep 2004 >  17:09:37 > > >GMT) > > >X-Complaints-To: groups-ab…@google.com > > >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:09:37 +0000 (UTC) > > >lindaglasve…@aol.comnojunk (Linda) wrote > > >> A Party to Remember! > > >> Linda > > >That sounds wonderful! Our last family reunion was over 20 years ago, > > >and I doubt we’ll have another. We’ve all lost touch over the years > > >since our grandparents died. Good for your family for keeping it > > >together! > > We would  have to rent Carniegie Hall to hold  a complete family re-union. >  . > > In fact,  my grandfather’s generation did rent Carnigie Hall for one the >  family > > re-unions I was invited to way back when. > > This family re-union was specifically for all direct descendents of that > > grandfather (excepting black sheep). > > That grandfather did oodles of geneology research upon his retirement and >  gave > > copies of his researh to everyone in the family. > > Others have carried the genological research…..filling in more info >  about > > that line…plus their other lines owing to marragies etc. > > Staples,  the store,   sells a Family Chart—which was purchased for the > > party…so everyone attending could fill in their families info.. so even >  the > > youngest children could "see" how they were related to every other  person > > attending the party —since many of the peoople who  attended  weren’t >  people > > they usually have contact with as people  came from all over ….. > > Mutual Interest in geneology keeps members of families in contact who >  might > > otherwise of lost contact. > > It’s a good thing,  too….seeing how my having the support of such a >  large > > family has been a great comfort to me while I have been withering the >  malice of > > the persons  viciously cyberstalking,  harassing and posting black lies to > > libel me. > > Linda > > Do not tell me that assholes who track and follow me around usenet into >  forum > > after forum and post untrue BS about me aren’t cyberstalking me,  unless >  you > > are prepared to have me tell you what an asshole you are. > > . > See, you can’t just leave it as a happy reunion.  You HAVE to add some part > at the end about "withering the malice of the persons viciously > cyberstalking, harassing and posting black lies to libel [you]." > Must you include it in everything? > Pablo

————————————————————- In that circle of people "Happy" and "Reunion" doesn’t ring true from my personal experience.  LMG mentions being in Las Vegas, neither myself, youngest sister or younger brother were invited or had knowledge of any reunion. I guess, I could question the actually existance of any said gathering …. but my mother has been known to arrange these little parties before, leaving out this or that relative, (whomever was on her "XXXX" list of late) so I’m going to assumed LMG has joined the ranks of Leonie’s unappreciated children and is on her way to being estranged.   Maybe this will awaken LMG to the real source of her angry and start her on a path of healing or maybe not as she seems to have a need to be depicted as the "eternal victim". DiChiera / Patricia

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Someone sent me this to share with the group: A FAMILY REUNION? By Ian Wolff I received the call at 4 a.m. from my eldest sister, Kathleen.  "I’m trying to organize a family reunion!" she blurted excitedly.  "Wanna come?" "But of course," I shot back.  "How else can I kill you for waking me at 4 a.m.?  Have you been smoking those towering northern redwoods again?" Let me pause a moment here in an attempt to capsulize for you my darling sister Kathleen.  She was, and still is, a child of the ’60s.  Caught in the clutches of some Orwellian time freeze.  Unable to extricate herself from the confessedly overwhelming Tractor Beam of lava lamps, black lights, hand-carved bongs, and bell-bottoms. Dressed in black, she often whirls into one’s life just long enough to remind the unwary victim of a time and place long past.  Her mere presence triggers a conjuring of ancient memories, or teachings, depending on your age.  Like Manson, The Tet offensive, Kent State, Watergate, and last but not least, the Monkees, of whom I’m sure she still has a poster. I must confess, for argument’s sake, that I missed the ’60s.  I was there, mind you, but only in a very limited role.  Suffice it to say that had the longhaired warriors of peace been in need of a small army, I could have supplied at least one fully equipped division of G.I. Joes. I would have had no choice.  Even given the fact that I didn’t agree, even at that very young age, with their tactics or politics.  It would still have been a total no brainer.  This was my sister, damn it.  And I haven’t even mentioned the fact that I also had two older brothers who consequently were also part of the anti-establishment war!  Sure, I might have paid a heavy price for committing so large a force to the cause of an individual’s right to live in a Volkswagen van and subsist on produce pilfered from poor little Capitalist pig farmers.  But damn the consequences, this was blood. And besides, why not defend an era in which things were so much simpler?  A time in which the tedium of reading health labels was unheard of.  One simply accepted and swallowed without question whatever was handed to him by his nearest cross-legged sitting neighbor, barely noting the color, much less the content. I’m sure my hero at the time, John Wayne, may have taken issue with my decision.  But even he, I’m convinced, given the choice between politics and blood, would have opted to defend his family.  Consequences be damned!  In fact, I can almost hear him now. "Okay, listen up Pilgrims!  Rainbow, Moonbeam and Wildchild just broke into the science lab at Berkeley and they’ve done commenced to settin’ all the frogs free.  The National Guard’s on its way and it looks like there’s gonna be a fracas.  Personally, I could give a mule’s backside what happens to them.  But, they’re my sister’s kids dag-blamit.  So mount up!" In case you haven’t noticed, just talking about the ’60s sets one’s mind to wandering.  I opened with a simple phone call and have now lapsed into what sounds like a Colin Ferguson closing argument. "Well?" she continued.  "Will you come?" "Of course I will," I assured her, secretly hoping that whatever mind-altering pharmaceutical was currently holding her noggin hostage would soon release it, thus freeing what little she had left to realize that bringing our family together was about as realistic a probability as the reuniting of the Spanish Armadas Cabin boys. "Great!" she chirped. "Where’s it gonna be?" I asked. "Where’s what gonna be?" "The reunion, Kathy.  Where’s the family reunion gonna be?" "Whoa… what a trip.  My refrigerator just ran out the back door screaming.  Family reunion?  Who is this?" "This is Ian, Kathy.  Your brother?" "You’re crazy, Ian.  You can’t get this family back together.  You called me at 4 a.m. in the morning for that?" "Yeah.  I’m sorry.  I don’t know what got into me.  You lie your little head down on Mr. Pillow now.  And don’t worry about Mr. Refrigerator — I’m sure he’ll be home when you wake up.  Okay?" "Okay Ian.  It was a good idea though.  Do you really think the rest of the family would have come?" "Sure they would Kathy.  They let people out of those places for all kinds of reasons nowadays.  Just wait, you’ll see soon enough." "You wouldn’t let them take me, would you Ian?" "Never.  I’d send my G.I. Joes.  Goodnight Kathy." "Goodnight Professor Leary."

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"Linda" <lindaglasve…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message

news:20040912173037.29660.00004472@mb-m16.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Subject: Re: A Party To Remember > >Path: > >lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed2.newsreader.com!news > reader.com!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!postnews2.google.com!not-for-mail > >From: chefs…@cox.net  (Sara) > >Newsgroups: alt.support.tourette > >Date: 12 Sep 2004 10:09:37 -0700 > >Organization: http://groups.google.com > >Lines: 16 > >Message-ID: <e8c834be.0409120909.705fd…@posting.google.com> > >References: <20040912010617.03847.00000…@mb-m10.aol.com> > >NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.4.108.116 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1095008977 22673 127.0.0.1 (12 Sep 2004 17:09:37 > >GMT) > >X-Complaints-To: groups-ab…@google.com > >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:09:37 +0000 (UTC) > >lindaglasve…@aol.comnojunk (Linda) wrote > >> A Party to Remember! > >> Linda > >That sounds wonderful! Our last family reunion was over 20 years ago, > >and I doubt we’ll have another. We’ve all lost touch over the years > >since our grandparents died. Good for your family for keeping it > >together! > We would  have to rent Carniegie Hall to hold  a complete family re-union. . > In fact,  my grandfather’s generation did rent Carnigie Hall for one the family > re-unions I was invited to way back when. > This family re-union was specifically for all direct descendents of that > grandfather (excepting black sheep). > That grandfather did oodles of geneology research upon his retirement and gave > copies of his researh to everyone in the family. > Others have carried the genological research…..filling in more info about > that line…plus their other lines owing to marragies etc. > Staples,  the store,   sells a Family Chart—which was purchased for the > party…so everyone attending could fill in their families info.. so even the > youngest children could "see" how they were related to every other  person > attending the party —since many of the peoople who  attended  weren’t people > they usually have contact with as people  came from all over ….. > Mutual Interest in geneology keeps members of families in contact who might > otherwise of lost contact. > It’s a good thing,  too….seeing how my having the support of such a large > family has been a great comfort to me while I have been withering the malice of > the persons  viciously cyberstalking,  harassing and posting black lies to > libel me. > Linda > Do not tell me that assholes who track and follow me around usenet into forum > after forum and post untrue BS about me aren’t cyberstalking me,  unless you > are prepared to have me tell you what an asshole you are. > .

See, you can’t just leave it as a happy reunion.  You HAVE to add some part at the end about "withering the malice of the persons viciously cyberstalking, harassing and posting black lies to libel [you]." Must you include it in everything? Pablo

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‘Twas Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:14:11 GMT when all alt.support.tourette stood in awe as "John Morten Malerbakken" <John.Morten.removethisparttore…@malerbakken.removethiscom> uttered: >Did you know that there are more descendants of Norwegians living in the USA >than there are Norwegians in Norway?

I knew that.  Irish, too. — RB |  

If you choose to go to SPP

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"bluemoon" <bluem…@milkyway.net> wrote in message

news:2qks52F10b5s2U1@uni-berlin.de… > You do laundry today?

She is apparently enjoying her inclusion into the Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, recently awarded to her in the vote conducted by alt.usenet.kooks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Nutty Professor" <nos…@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:1095055868.aG5Kly5hVpT/hFl2580Dbw@teranews… > > "Sara" <chefs…@cox.net> wrote in message > > Woah, I guess that would depend on your definition of "fools" dude. > > From what I read, from what got cross-posted here, they pretty much > > sounded like a whole bunch of fools to me. > > Just my opinion. > > ———————————– > > SPP? > > AKA > > Small Petty People?

Then why do you post there? Pablo

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"Blurt Durtwurd" <blurtdurtw…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:50hak0p99e81ucq6q8s8gbbl4136habsje@4ax.com… > In article <tiL0d.20323$Wv5.11…@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, > "Pablo" <n…@yes.com> wrote: > >If anyone chooses to lurk on SPP (which is NOT a support group) to see what > >Linda has been talking about over there: > I really doubt people here are interested in checking it out, and > anyway, I think maybe there’s not been much talk there about Linda > lately, because she’s stopped posting there for the time being, as far > as I’ve seen.

True, at least, on the second account, although I think I saw at least one post from her there last night. I posted what I did just in case anyone did want to go. > I’ve been reading a great discussion there about favorite musicains. > It evolved from one of Linda’s rants.  Lots of my very favorite music > being discussed.

They will do that sometimes…take one of her rants and evolve it into something else.  I have enjoyed the music portions of those threads, too. Just like any warzone, there are chances for good conversation despite the bullets. Pablo

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"Blurt Durtwurd" <blurtdurtw…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:bafak0patmsp02ivv9fhceh0gtjubf2453@4ax.com… In article Are you gonna go back on your word, Sara?  Now get on her, like you said you would! Are you soliciting others to cyberharass NNP?

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"Blurt Durtwurd" <blurtdurtw…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

news:50hak0p99e81ucq6q8s8gbbl4136habsje@4ax.com… > In article <tiL0d.20323$Wv5.11…@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, > "Pablo" <n…@yes.com> wrote: >>If anyone chooses to lurk on SPP (which is NOT a support group) to see >>what >>Linda has been talking about over there: > I really doubt people here are interested in checking it out,

The psychotherapists who post regularly to SPP are all cyberstalking crazed maniacs. All they ever post is insane BS about whoever the current object of their obsession is. Their co-opting SPP for their cyberstalking operations ensures few others will waste their time posting read worthy posts to SPP, either.

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> If anyone chooses to lurk on SPP (which is NOT a support group)

Why should that be interesting? Just like someone would find it uninteresting to particiopate in my discussions regaring naming principles in Norway in the early 1800s. JMM

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"John Morten Malerbakken" <John.Morten.removethisparttore…@malerbakken.removethiscom> wrote in message news:nKc2d.3358$d5.25714@newsb.telia.net… > > If anyone chooses to lurk on SPP (which is NOT a support group) > Why should that be interesting?

Two possible reasons. 1.  Others had wondered what was being said there. 2.  Because it is not interesting to you does not mean it is not interesting to others. > Just like someone would find it > uninteresting to particiopate in my discussions regaring naming principles > in Norway in the early 1800s.

Who knows?  Maybe someone would find your discussions regarding naming principles in Norway in the early 1800’s a fascinating topic. Pablo

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> Who knows?  Maybe someone would find your discussions regarding naming > principles in Norway in the early 1800’s a fascinating topic.

Many do actually, but it helps to be a Norwegian or be able to handle the language to take part in it. JMM (Norwegian)

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"John Morten Malerbakken" <John.Morten.removethisparttore…@malerbakken.removethiscom> wrote in message news:cly2d.3459$d5.26544@newsb.telia.net… > > Who knows?  Maybe someone would find your discussions regarding naming > > principles in Norway in the early 1800’s a fascinating topic. > Many do actually, but it helps to be a Norwegian or be able to handle the > language to take part in it. > JMM > (Norwegian)

I didn’t realize.  Thought it could be discussed in English. Pablo

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>> > Who knows?  Maybe someone would find your discussions regarding naming >> > principles in Norway in the early 1800’s a fascinating topic. >> Many do actually, but it helps to be a Norwegian or be able to handle the >> language to take part in it. >> JMM >> (Norwegian) > I didn’t realize.  Thought it could be discussed in English.

Off course it can, I can send you some excellent links to pages written in English for those who are looking for ancestors in Norway if you like to. I believe there are some German pages about it too. JMM

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"John Morten Malerbakken" wrote > Off course it can, I can send you some excellent links to pages written in > English for those who are looking for ancestors in Norway if you like to. I > believe there are some German pages about it too. > JMM

Do you know of any really good ones from Denmark? Lara

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>From: "Lara" kbu…@tpg.com.au >Do you know of any really good ones from Denmark?

Sorry to break in to the middle of your conversation with JMM, but I have a really great Denmark genealogy site bookmarked and thought you might find it useful: http://www.ida.net/users/really/ Kim

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"AuntKim2004" wrote > >From: "Lara" > >Do you know of any really good ones from Denmark? > Sorry to break in to the middle of your conversation with JMM, but I have a > really great Denmark genealogy site bookmarked and thought you might find it > useful: > http://www.ida.net/users/really/ > Kim

Thanks, Kim.  I’ll check it out. My children have some Danish ancestors.  (Not on my side.)

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"Lara"  wrote > Thanks, Kim.  I’ll check it out. > My children have some Danish ancestors.  (Not on my side.)

I can’t believe I wrote what I did in brackets. It probably only makes sense to _me_ because I was focusing on my children and their father’s side. Considering that my own ancestors were Normans, it is also highly possible that somewhere prior to and after the year 900 A.D., some of my ancestors were from Denmark or thereabouts.  :o/

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"John Morten Malerbakken" <John.Morten.removethisparttore…@malerbakken.removethiscom> wrote in message news:6mG3d.3729$d5.29132@newsb.telia.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> > Who knows?  Maybe someone would find your discussions regarding naming > >> > principles in Norway in the early 1800’s a fascinating topic. > >> Many do actually, but it helps to be a Norwegian or be able to handle the > >> language to take part in it. > >> JMM > >> (Norwegian) > > I didn’t realize.  Thought it could be discussed in English. > Off course it can, I can send you some excellent links to pages written in > English for those who are looking for ancestors in Norway if you like to. I > believe there are some German pages about it too. > JMM

I have no ancestors in Norway or Germany.  But do you see what our pleasant discussion about naming principles has led to?  Denmark!  Someone helped someone.  Someone was helped!  Is that not what we want, in the end?  I am glad you did not give up. A bit of The Cure is appropriate here: So when the hurting starts And when the nightmares begin Remember you can fill up the sky You don’t have to give in – from "Fight" Pablo

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In article <20040912121123.10848.00003…@mb-m25.aol.com>, NONITPlK wrote: >The people who need to know who the mystery forger (most probably) is know who >it is.

AST Detective NONITPIK is still bragging about her backchannel smearing!  Can you believe it?  And sticking to her repugnant accusation!   And still refusing to disclose her "information"! Sara, where are you?  You’re supposed to be getting on her to answer some questions! Are you gonna go back on your word, Sara?  Now get on her, like you said you would! Blurt

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In article <tiL0d.20323$Wv5.11…@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Pablo" <n…@yes.com> wrote: >If anyone chooses to lurk on SPP (which is NOT a support group) to see what >Linda has been talking about over there:

I really doubt people here are interested in checking it out, and anyway, I think maybe there’s not been much talk there about Linda lately, because she’s stopped posting there for the time being, as far as I’ve seen. I’ve been reading a great discussion there about favorite musicains. It evolved from one of Linda’s rants.  Lots of my very favorite music being discussed. Blurt

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"NONITPlK" <cyberb…@aol.comNONITPlK> wrote in message

news:20040912121123.10848.00003562@mb-m25.aol.com… > > if Brenda > >will ever answer the questions about a "mystery forger > Thought you weren’t following that discussion, nono?

I’ve been catching up, Brenda. > The people who need to know who the mystery forger (most probably) is know who > it is.

So Blurt was right.  Thanks for another demonstration, Brenda. Yep, getting caught up on this one. Pablo

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"Nutty Professor" <nos…@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:1095055868.aG5Kly5hVpT/hFl2580Dbw@teranews… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Sara" <chefs…@cox.net> wrote in message > Woah, I guess that would depend on your definition of "fools" dude. > From what I read, from what got cross-posted here, they pretty much > sounded like a whole bunch of fools to me. > Just my opinion. > ———————————– > SPP? > AKA > Small Petty People?

Nutty Professor? AKA Linda Gore?

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"Sara" <chefs…@cox.net> wrote in message

news:e8c834be.0409121921.18cb5a59@posting.google.com… > "Pablo" <n…@yes.com> wrote in message > > Also, choose wisely.  Fools aren’t suffered gladly there. > > Pablo > Woah, I guess that would depend on your definition of "fools" dude.

In this case, a fool is someone who goes into SPP and: – goes after her family there (which resulted in a huge family battle) – attacks regular SPP posters, most of whom she does not know. – attacks me when she should know that SPP posters are going to defend me. – attacks Kali (big mistake) – defends HoofPrints and, especially, Brad Jesness – lies > From what I read, from what got cross-posted here, they pretty much > sounded like a whole bunch of fools to me.

I don’t know what you read, but a good deal of the crossposted material was due to Linda.  She and HoofPrints originally crossposted a bunch of stuff, and that started to attract others.  Over there, I requested that it end, and most of it did. More recently, others started cross/reposting some of her rants.  As you know, I reposted a few rants. Like I said, SPP is not a support group, and it is currently a war zone.  I willingly participate there and have explained why in a previous post. Linda willingly participates there, too.  I’m not sure why she does, but she does. > Just my opinion.

An opinion to which you are entitled.  Like I said in my previous post, it’s difficult to know what is going on there.  It has apparently been going on for a very long time.  Again, LInda CHOSE to involve herself there, despite my suggestion that she not do so. Pablo

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"Pablo" <n…@yes.com> wrote in message > Also, choose wisely.  Fools aren’t suffered gladly there. > Pablo

Woah, I guess that would depend on your definition of "fools" dude. From what I read, from what got cross-posted here, they pretty much sounded like a whole bunch of fools to me. Just my opinion. Sara

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"Sara" <chefs…@cox.net> wrote in message

Woah, I guess that would depend on your definition of "fools" dude. From what I read, from what got cross-posted here, they pretty much sounded like a whole bunch of fools to me. Just my opinion. ———————————– SPP? AKA Small Petty People?

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You do laundry today? "Nutty Professor" <nos…@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:1095055868.aG5Kly5hVpT/hFl2580Dbw@teranews… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Sara" <chefs…@cox.net> wrote in message > Woah, I guess that would depend on your definition of "fools" dude. > From what I read, from what got cross-posted here, they pretty much > sounded like a whole bunch of fools to me. > Just my opinion. > ———————————– > SPP? > AKA > Small Petty People?

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> if Brenda >will ever answer the questions about a

Epiphone Les Paul Junior — for $450??

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Not enough sleep, I guess. Anyway, I realize I was thinking of the wrong guitar after sending the post. Never mind. Ed Cregger

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for? Sounds like the jackass is trying to sell it as a Gibson.  I’ve seen a lot of stores try to sell Squiers as "Genuine Fenders" and demand around $250-$300 for an old Mexican or Japanese Squier,

$250-$300 isn’t bad for a MIJ Squier

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There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

Sounds like the jackass is trying to sell it as a Gibson.  I’ve seen a lot of stores try to sell Squiers as "Genuine Fenders" and demand around $250-$300 for an old Mexican or Japanese Squier, so it’s not all that uncommon, although this is a little unreasonable.  Often the people at pawn shops don’t really know much about instruments, so they hear "Epiphone and Gibson are the same company" and go with the Gibson pricing because it’s much higher.  Or because they think some dumbass won’t know the difference, either. I wish I could find one of those pawnshops that relies on a stupid VCR tech to tell them all vacuum tube technology is obsolete, so they sell old tube amps for peanuts.  I heard of a guy picking up a blackface Fender Twin Reverb in great shape for $50 once because of that. Jeremy

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The Epiphone LP Jur was originally sold for about $379. At that price, it was really not worth it of course, and near the end of the run of the P90 version, they did come down to $179. Then later on, when the Humbucker version was introduced, it was (and is) sold for $99. I have one of the P90 models. I replaced the pickup with a Gibson P90 and I replacde the tuners with come nice Gotohs, and mine came with a wraparound bridge that has adjustable saddles, similar to a Leo Quan BadAss. Overall, it is a nice axe, but not worth the money he is asking. Offer him $75 and see what happens. If any of the parts have been improved, you can go higher, but not much higher.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

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I know Epi didnt make them back then.Unplayable? You must be another one of the stupid mother fuckers that cant set up a guitar huh Bruce?If you cant play the ones I’ve seen then you cant play anything .Try playing a little bit less with yourself and play your guitar more. PS Fuck you

   your Tourette’s acting up again, Keith? — making Usenet safer – one troll at a time!

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I know Epi didnt make them back then.Unplayable? You must be another one of the stupid mother fuckers that cant set up a guitar huh Bruce?If you cant play the ones I’ve seen then you cant play anything .Try playing a little bit less with yourself and play your guitar more. PS Fuck you

NICE POST!  (not) The only way it would be worth the money that the guys asking is if its an original.Just guessing the years but  around 1955-61 or 2. There were no Epi LP models back then, only Gibsons. Iirc, Epiphone was still an independent U.S. company for at least some of those years.

FYI, Gibson bought Epiphone in 1957. The new ones are selling for as low as $80 and probably the best bang for buck going. The ones I tried were pretty much unplayable, so that price is just about right…

Well, I never picked one up that I’d pay $80 for.  There is a VAST difference between Chinese bolt-on and Korean set neck Epiphones! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

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I know Epi didnt make them back then.Unplayable? You must be another one of the stupid mother fuckers that cant set up a guitar huh Bruce?

How many music stores will let you sit there and adjust a new guitar?  What planet do you live on, son? If you cant play the ones I’ve seen then you cant play anything .

Maybe, but then again I haven’t played the ones you’ve seen.  The ones I tried were second-rate Asian junk, period — a half hour with a set of nut files and a truss rod wrench might have helped a little, but not much. Try playing a little bit less with yourself and play your guitar more.

Look sonny, I’ve gigged with a real ’50s LP Jr., and what Epi calls an LP Jr. isn’t even in the same area code, let alone the same ballpark.   "Band for the buck?"   You’d be better off buying a used Squier — at least there’s some semblance of QC there! PS Fuck you

Charmed, I’m sure. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The only way it would be worth the money that the guys asking is if its an original.Just guessing the years but  around 1955-61 or 2. There were no Epi LP models back then, only Gibsons. Iirc, Epiphone was still an independent U.S. company for at least some of those years. The new ones are selling for as low as $80 and probably the best bang for buck going. The ones I tried were pretty much unplayable, so that price is just about right… There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?       Posted via TITANnews – Uncensored Newsgroups Access             at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<< -=Every Newsgroup – Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-

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There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

You are right, he is wrong.  It’s a cheap POS and he’s either mistaken or is trying to rip you off!

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I know Epi didnt make them back then.Unplayable? You must be another one of the stupid mother fuckers that cant set up a guitar huh Bruce?If you cant play the ones I’ve seen then you cant play anything .Try playing a little bit less with yourself and play your guitar more. PS Fuck you The only way it would be worth the money that the guys asking is if its an original.Just guessing the years but  around 1955-61 or 2.

There were no Epi LP models back then, only Gibsons. Iirc, Epiphone was still an independent U.S. company for at least some of those years. The new ones are selling for as low as $80 and probably the best bang for buck going.

The ones I tried were pretty much unplayable, so that price is just about right… There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

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The only way it would be worth the money that the guys asking is if its an original.Just guessing the years but  around 1955-61 or 2.

There were no Epi LP models back then, only Gibsons.   Iirc, Epiphone was still an independent U.S. company for at least some of those years. The new ones are selling for as low as $80 and probably the best bang for buck going.

The ones I tried were pretty much unplayable, so that price is just about right… There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

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The only way it would be worth the money that the guys asking is if its an original.Just guessing the years but  around 1955-61 or 2. The new ones are selling for as low as $80 and probably the best bang for buck going.

There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

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There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

The only guitar that I am familiar with that sort of meets your description is being sold at Musician’s Friend for $99.99, or some other change figure. It comes with a small 9vdc amp and a gig bag. It is called an Epiphone PeeWee and is also listed as a RaveRig. The scale is only around 18". I bought mine to use as lapsteels with a conversion nut. They work very well as lapsteels and sound much better than other $100 lapsteels, plus they come with an amp and gigbag. These have Gibson printed on the truss rod covers. Ed Cregger

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There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

Chances are the pawnshop guy know exactly what he’s got there, and he’s just waiting for some sucker to come in and buy the guitar that HE paid 40 bucks for…

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There’s a pawn shop near me that has a black Epiphone Les Paul Junior. The tag says $695. The owner says he can part with it for $400. I say, isn’t this a $99 guitar? It’s got the single humbucker, the glossy black finish, single tone and volume controls, small body, etc. The truss-rod cover says "Les Paul." It’s made in China, set up in U.S. Is there another Epi Les Paul Juniorr that I don’t know about, or should I inform this guy he’s never going to get more than $75 for a guitar he probably paid a lot more for?

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