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>From: "Joanne C." <joco…@tiac.net> >Date: 19 Jun 1999 05:30:50 GMT >Message-ID: <01beba1c$dea5a1c0$7e3d3ccf@oemcomputer>
(Snip) >DITTO DITTO DITTO…..it does reek of borderline (geez, almost anti-social) >behavior, and it is so pathetic…I can’t even imagine how these people >function in the world with the public, or if they hold real jobs? Or how >they deal with their neighbors? It’s almost like they feed off this >stuff….personally, not only is it sick, it gives me the creeps. >– >Joanne C.
Why don’t you take your own advice, and stop crossposting? No you just had to post your agreements to friends, and try to discredit what you don’t like. Why don’t you complain to these folks’s ISPs’? Larry Lyons Kymberly Barnard Another censor exposed. TOR Consumer Advocate — "Raoul, Raoul, Raoul and the Kings of Spain Making it plain, making it sane To turn this loss into a gain" ——Raoul and the Kings of Spain — 1995 — Tears For Fears
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>From: "Joanne C." <joco…@tiac.net> >Date: 19 Jun 1999 06:45:25 GMT >Message-ID: <01beba27$4aff78a0$7e3d3ccf@oemcomputer>
(Snip) >How have I cross-posted if I haven’t left AST? >– >Joanne C.
Well, because you’re playing games. This post you sent this morning has SPP removed (after I mentioned about you cross posting). But you failed to remove SPP yesterday evening, that’s why. Here read it yourself, check the NG headers, okay? Might help next time when *you* complain to ISPs first, ask questions later… Subject: Re: GO underground and stay there…… Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!198.138 .0.5!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild2!n…@tiac.net From: "Joanne C." <joco…@tiac.net> Newsgroups: alt.support.tourette,sci.psychology.psychotherapy Date: 19 Jun 1999 05:26:43 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01beba1c$4b5ba360$7e3d3ccf@oemcomputer> References: <199906182232.AAA26161@mail.replay.com> <H7Aa3.189$4e1.13…@iad-read.news.verio.net> <376ACE06.703D8…@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p125.tc1.state.ma.tiac.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: lobby alt.support.tourette:54214 sci.psychology.psychotherapy:85696 — Joanne C. Underground Panther <puma…@erols.com> wrote in article <376ACE06.703D8…@erols.com>… : Larry C. Lyons wrote: : GO AWAY PEOPLE, you are not wanted, welcomed, appreciated, or even credible here. Subject: Re: Recent Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!205.231 .236.10!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild2!n…@tiac.net From: "Joanne C." <joco…@tiac.net> Newsgroups: alt.support.tourette,sci.psychology.psychotherapy Date: 19 Jun 1999 05:30:50 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <01beba1c$dea5a1c0$7e3d3ccf@oemcomputer> References: <199906182232.AAA26161@mail.replay.com> <H7Aa3.189$4e1.13…@iad-read.news.verio.net> <OwCa3.1423$FK.30…@news.itd.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: p125.tc1.state.ma.tiac.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: lobby alt.support.tourette:54215 sci.psychology.psychotherapy:85698 DITTO DITTO DITTO…..it does reek of borderline (geez, almost anti-social) behavior, and it is so pathetic…I can’t even imagine how these people function in the world with the public, or if they hold real jobs? Or how they deal with their neighbors? It’s almost like they feed off this stuff….personally, not only is it sick, it gives me the creeps. — Joanne C. Silke-Maria Weineck <sm…@umich.edu> wrote in article <OwCa3.1423$FK.30…@news.itd.umich.edu>… : : This recent campaign against Leslie is one of the vilest things I’ve seen : on Usenet, and I’ve seen a lot. I simply cannot believe how people can use : the pain of a child to score points against someone with whom they’ve been : in antagonistic contact. I can believe insults, I can believe really : hurtful insults, but a child? A kid who’s doing so badly she needs to be : in the hospital? And that from people who claim to be "advocates"? And all : that in that high-five-slapping circus tone? It’s disgusting, and in some : way, it’s even heart-breaking to watch. I’ve given people like Tor some : slack, some benefit of the doubt, I thought, okay, they’ve suffered, if : they cross some lines sometimes, perhaps it’s understandable, but never, : ever did I imagine you could stoop so low, debase yourselves so : completely. : : smw : Subject: Re: Wishing Anonymous was invisible Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!howland.erols.net!news-fe ed1.tiac.net!posterchild2!n…@tiac.net From: "Joanne C." <joco…@tiac.net> Newsgroups: alt.support.tourette,sci.psychology.psychotherapy Date: 19 Jun 1999 05:25:38 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <01beba1c$24a07a20$7e3d3ccf@oemcomputer> References: <199906182232.AAA26…@mail.replay.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p125.tc1.state.ma.tiac.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: lobby alt.support.tourette:54213 sci.psychology.psychotherapy:85695 — Joanne C. Anonymous <nob…@replay.com> : : It would help if Leslie did not involve these : people as kooks !!! Don’t you think ????? : NO WE THINK YOU SHOULD GO AWAY : TOR Consumer Advocate — "Raoul, Raoul, Raoul and the Kings of Spain Making it plain, making it sane To turn this loss into a gain" ——Raoul and the Kings of Spain — 1995 — Tears For Fears
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>From: Barti…@att.spam.net (Randall Bart) >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:25:12 GMT >Message-ID: <376c021f.18771222@netnews>
(Snip) >Erebus,
It’s TOR, if folks even bother reading my posts before they start ranting. she was not aware she was crossposting. She complained about crossposting, don’t you think it’s wise to check *her* posts before ranting about others? The thread was started >with two ngs, she replied and it went to both ngs. Then you posted a >response with only one ng, she replied to the one ng.
Well, you do know that AOL we can’t crosspost. I can only reply to one NG at a time. I see no evidence >that she ever changed a newsgroup header,
Pays to read carefully. Didn’t say anything about doctoring newsgroup headers. so I conclude that you are the >one playing games.
Concluded wrong. TOR Consumer Advocate — "Raoul, Raoul, Raoul and the Kings of Spain Making it plain, making it sane To turn this loss into a gain" ——Raoul and the Kings of Spain — 1995 — Tears For Fears
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>From: Barti…@att.spam.net (Randall Bart) >Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 06:51:31 GMT >Message-ID: <376c85f7.52456945@netnews>
(Snip) >If you will take the time to look at the "From" header of the messages >which you are posting, you will discover that you are posting from the >name Erebus1845. I assume that you took this name yourself, and want to >be identified this way. If this is not the case, that’s an issue between >you and AOL.
You’re a crock full of word plays, gamer. I sign my posts, which means your statement above is meaningless. >Erebus is the personification of darkness. Since you have come to a.s.t >only to spread darkness, the name is quite apropos.
You’re the embodiment of protectism, even if fact was a 2×4 and hit you upside the head. Well Barticus reminds me of Barficus. Now isn’t that a sweet name 
>She complained about crossposting without really knowing what crossposting >was. She was born ignorant, and unlike you she doesn’t know everything, >yet.
Another excuse. Wayne where are you? >Actually I did already know that, but it didn’t occur to me.
Oh, and you’re qualified to tell me about my name, handing out excuses, and saying I’m playing games now, eh? Not when you don’t know the obvious. You’re suppose to be the Usenet "pro", and that means you know about newsreaders. Consider yourself spanked, since as the "expert" you didn’t do your homework. >Regardless, >my point remains valid: You accused her of sending one message to two >newsgroups and then the next to one newsgroup as though this were a >conscious act by Joanne,
Jeeze, Bart, you need to have those specs cleaned. Because if you travelled to SPP, you’d see how much crossposting was done, by ASTers. > when in fact the change from two newsgroups to >one occured when you posted.
Yep, when the crossposting BS was exposed. Can’t complain about crossposting and reposting when ASTers were doing it themselves. Remember that next time anyone complains to an ISP. Also why you bothered to post about it. >I didn’t say "doctoring", I said "changed".
Which is doctoring, because any alteration of NG *headers* is a doctoring process. Clever word play for the uninformed, so let’s inform them, okay? I was refering to posting a >reply to a newsgroup and consciously changing the "Newsgroups:" line in >the posting window. Read carefully what you had said:
I did, but you didn’t. That’s why when you mention about this…. >> I see no evidence >> >that she ever changed a newsgroup header,
Replies like mine are valid. Read carefully. >This implys she consciously removed "sci.psychology.psychotherapy" from >the "Newsgroups:" line, which she did not. >She didn’t even know to look >at the "Newsgroups:" line. You knew that she was writing in response to >your message which wasn’t crossposted. You were (and are) the one playing >games.
No, Bart, goes like this: complain first, excuse later doesn’t cut the mustard. And your sorry attempts to justify it after the effect, just shows what you folks have to protect. You prove exactly what some folks been stating, and it’s by your very own words. Thanks for the info about the newsgroups line on newsreaders. I’m always interested in how one "consciously" uses a newsreader as an extension of their justification of abuse. TOR Consumer Advocate — "Raoul, Raoul, Raoul and the Kings of Spain Making it plain, making it sane To turn this loss into a gain" ——Raoul and the Kings of Spain — 1995 — Tears For Fears
