autistic versus ad/hd
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Did you ever hear of digital auditory aerobics? This is suppose to have a 90% success rate for hyperacusis? Just curious if it is a fad or what?
"Digital auditory aerobics" sounds like "sticking your fingers in your ears in a vigorous manner." I assume that would cut down the distracting noise somewhat! :)
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Did you ever hear of digital auditory aerobics? This is suppose to have a 90% success rate for hyperacusis? Just curious if it is a fad or what? "Digital auditory aerobics" sounds like "sticking your fingers in your ears in a vigorous manner." I assume that would cut down the distracting noise somewhat! :)
LOL, ROTFL. Chris, I can’t stop laughing. I guess you’re right though!! — Danielle, Writing from Canada Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/Canspec &canspec ICQ # 33710657
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Did you ever hear of digital auditory aerobics? This is suppose to have a 90% success rate for hyperacusis? Just curious if it is a fad or what? Donna
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What is CAPD? I have seen this a couple of times. But not sure what it is? Donna Central Auditory Processing Disorder. My older son has CAPD, yet does quite well in a rigorous, private school. You can find online information here: http://members.home.net/blessedby2/other_links.htm There are also links there for the Society for Auditory Integration Training. Issues with sensitivity to noises can occur in any number of neurological conditions, and are not necessarily specific to the autism spectrum. — BB2 Tourette Syndrome – Now What? http://members.home.net/blessedby2 I don’t have the knowledge to comment on Autism with any real authority – but I can tell you that what I’ve observed is VERY distinguishable from ADD (and from – um……"normalcy"). The students I saw/worked with were both VERY sensitive to noise. When, during lunch in the cafe for instance, the noise level got too high, one of the two would cup his ears and look around – and/or get extremely silly and bouncy. The "lower functioning" student would stick his fingers in his ears, slap his stomach, yell out (sounds, not words) and be "tactile defensive" – that is, he’d pinch me. It was his way of saying "this is too much for me!!!". My son has ADHD, CAPD and Hyperacusis. Whenever he is faced with certain loud, sudden or high-pitched noises, he reacts adversely to them but never in the manner you describe in the autistic children. I also know a little autistic child that is also hyperactive (not ADHD). He behaves much in the way you describe. And, even though he is very high functionning autistic, it is always evident, right away, that he has autism. This isn’t the case where ADHD is concerned: the differences in the behaviors is not as obvious. — Danielle, Writing from Canada Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/Canspec &canspec ICQ # 33710657
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Norma said: "Are you saying that sensitivity to sounds also can occur in ADHD? Just curious. I wondered for a while if my daughters (and mine) sensitivity to sounds would make us Aspies. So much that overlaps." Sensitivity to sound can be seen in lots of disorders: not only Asperger’s but anxiety disorders, depression, some people with ADHD. I don’t think there’s one psychological or neurological symptom that is found in only one disorder.
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Are you saying that sensitivity to sounds also can occur in ADHD? Just curious. I wondered for a while if my daughters (and mine) sensitivity to sounds would make us Aspies. So much that overlaps.
I think that book I’m reading about omega-3 fats says that a lack of these essentila nutrients is also correlated with ear problems such as tinnitus. (As well as ADD.) — Cathy Woodgold TISSATAAFL Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Inability is an abstract thing involving comparison with alternate universes; it cannot be experienced.
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Are you saying that sensitivity to sounds also can occur in ADHD? Just curious. I wondered for a while if my daughters (and mine) sensitivity to sounds would make us Aspies. So much that overlaps.
I never actually thought about that, always assumed that his sensitivity to sound was related to his CAPD. Now that I think of it, I am also sensitive to certain sounds and I don’t have ADHD. Always assumed it was due to the fact that I am loosing a lot of my hearing and that this intensified high-pitched sounds while low-pitched sounds were becoming harder to hear. You’re right, so much overlaps. — Danielle, Writing from Canada Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/Canspec &canspec ICQ # 33710657
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That’s funny you should mention omega-3 fatty acids. My sons doctor just recommended flax oil. Before his suspecting of hyperacusis. What book are reading that mentions this? Thanks, Donna
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are you saying that sensitivity to sounds also can occur in ADHD? Just curious. I wondered for a while if my daughters (and mine) sensitivity to sounds would make us Aspies. So much that overlaps. I think that book I’m reading about omega-3 fats says that a lack of these essentila nutrients is also correlated with ear problems such as tinnitus. (As well as ADD.) — Cathy Woodgold TISSATAAFL Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Inability is an abstract thing involving comparison with alternate universes; it cannot be experienced.
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What is CAPD? I have seen this a couple of times. But not sure what it is? Donna
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t have the knowledge to comment on Autism with any real authority – but I can tell you that what I’ve observed is VERY distinguishable from ADD (and from – um……"normalcy"). The students I saw/worked with were both VERY sensitive to noise. When, during lunch in the cafe for instance, the noise level got too high, one of the two would cup his ears and look around – and/or get extremely silly and bouncy. The "lower functioning" student would stick his fingers in his ears, slap his stomach, yell out (sounds, not words) and be "tactile defensive" – that is, he’d pinch me. It was his way of saying "this is too much for me!!!". My son has ADHD, CAPD and Hyperacusis. Whenever he is faced with certain loud, sudden or high-pitched noises, he reacts adversely to them but never in the manner you describe in the autistic children. I also know a little autistic child that is also hyperactive (not ADHD). He behaves much in the way you describe. And, even though he is very high functionning autistic, it is always evident, right away, that he has autism. This isn’t the case where ADHD is concerned: the differences in the behaviors is not as obvious. — Danielle, Writing from Canada Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/Canspec &canspec ICQ # 33710657
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It is possible to have both…. My son is dealing with ADHD, giftedness, and is on the autistic spectrum( a "working Dx of PDD-NOS, but doc highly suspects Asperger’s). Among his autistic traits are tactile- and auditory-hypersensitivity(oversensitivity to touch and to sound-under Sensory Integration Disorder).He also has some perserverating, and social skills problems. How much of this is due to the PDD, and how much to the ADHD or giftedness is still in question. His has been on Dexedrine(a stimulant) for his ADHD, and is on Zoloft for some of his autistic traits. They seem to be working. What his doc has said is that *each* case is individualistic–you can have 10 kids that are "classical" autism, but you will have 10 different sets of symptoms that have to be treated 10 different ways. Buny One size does NOT fit all, heck one size don’t even fit MOST!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have an eight year old boy who has been diagnosed ad/hd for about 3 years now. My question is, is it possible for ritalin to help an autistic child. My son has something called hyperacusis, which is a sensitivity to noises. Through my research I have found that about 90% of autistic children have hyperacusis. I am wondering if it possible that the ritalin is helping the autisism. I don’t know anything about autisism but maybe he just a mild form of it. Donna
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Are you saying that sensitivity to sounds also can occur in ADHD? Just curious. I wondered for a while if my daughters (and mine) sensitivity to sounds would make us Aspies. So much that overlaps. — Norma There’s a place I like to hide, A doorway that I run through in the night…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t have the knowledge to comment on Autism with any real authority – but I can tell you that what I’ve observed is VERY distinguishable from ADD (and from – um……"normalcy"). The students I saw/worked with were both VERY sensitive to noise. When, during lunch in the cafe for instance, the noise level got too high, one of the two would cup his ears and look around – and/or get extremely silly and bouncy. The "lower functioning" student would stick his fingers in his ears, slap his stomach, yell out (sounds, not words) and be "tactile defensive" – that is, he’d pinch me. It was his way of saying "this is too much for me!!!". My son has ADHD, CAPD and Hyperacusis. Whenever he is faced with certain loud, sudden or high-pitched noises, he reacts adversely to them but never in the manner you describe in the autistic children. I also know a little autistic child that is also hyperactive (not ADHD). He behaves much in the way you describe. And, even though he is very high functionning autistic, it is always evident, right away, that he has autism. This isn’t the case where ADHD is concerned: the differences in the behaviors is not as obvious. — Danielle, Writing from Canada Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/Canspec &canspec ICQ # 33710657
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I don’t have the knowledge to comment on Autism with any real authority – but I can tell you that what I’ve observed is VERY distinguishable from ADD (and from – um……"normalcy"). The students I saw/worked with were both VERY sensitive to noise. When, during lunch in the cafe for instance, the noise level got too high, one of the two would cup his ears and look around – and/or get extremely silly and bouncy. The "lower functioning" student would stick his fingers in his ears, slap his stomach, yell out (sounds, not words) and be "tactile defensive" – that is, he’d pinch me. It was his way of saying "this is too much for me!!!".
My son has ADHD, CAPD and Hyperacusis. Whenever he is faced with certain loud, sudden or high-pitched noises, he reacts adversely to them but never in the manner you describe in the autistic children. I also know a little autistic child that is also hyperactive (not ADHD). He behaves much in the way you describe. And, even though he is very high functionning autistic, it is always evident, right away, that he has autism. This isn’t the case where ADHD is concerned: the differences in the behaviors is not as obvious. — Danielle, Writing from Canada Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/Canspec &canspec ICQ # 33710657
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I have an eight year old boy who has been diagnosed ad/hd for about 3 years now. My question is, is it possible for ritalin to help an autistic child. My son has something called hyperacusis, which is a sensitivity to noises. Through my research I have found that about 90% of autistic children have hyperacusis. I am wondering if it possible that the ritalin is helping the autisism. I don’t know anything about autisism but maybe he just a mild form of it. Donna
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I have an eight year old boy who has been diagnosed ad/hd for about 3 years now. My question is, is it possible for ritalin to help an autistic child. My son has something called hyperacusis, which is a sensitivity to noises. Through my research I have found that about 90% of autistic children have hyperacusis. I am wondering if it possible that the ritalin is helping the autisism. I don’t know anything about autisism but maybe he just a mild form of it.
Well, I’m no expert on autism, but I am learning as I go along. I have had occasion to work with a few autistic children, and will be doing this full time in September. My (guided) observation is that there is very little overlap between the manifestations of Attention Deficicit Disorder and Autistm. The easiest and least confusing thing you can probably do to get a black and white comparison is to look in the DSM-IV. (There isn’t a DSM-IVR or a DSM-V out, is there?). Anyway – it is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of (Mental Disorders?). I know ADD is described in it. I don’t know if the same holds true for Autism. The diagnostic criteria for ADD and Autism are very different. I DO consider myself to be somewhat of a lay expert on ADD – both book knowledge and personal experience. The three main criteria are Inattention, Hyperactivity, and Impuslivity. They need to affect more than one area of your life (school, home, social, work) and have been present for more than six months – and if your an adult, present in your childhood. I don’t have the knowledge to comment on Autism with any real authority – but I can tell you that what I’ve observed is VERY distinguishable from ADD (and from – um……"normalcy"). The students I saw/worked with were both VERY sensitive to noise. When, during lunch in the cafe for instance, the noise level got too high, one of the two would cup his ears and look around – and/or get extremely silly and bouncy. The "lower functioning" student would stick his fingers in his ears, slap his stomach, yell out (sounds, not words) and be "tactile defensive" – that is, he’d pinch me. It was his way of saying "this is too much for me!!!". So, to answer your question – I think NO – Ritalin will not help autism, because that is not what it is meant to treat. There may me the occasional overlap or coincidence – but then that occurs everywhere. JUST FOR EXAMPLE – let me point out that water will quench the thirst of an ADD’er as well as someone with Multiple Sclerosis. My point is that some things – like being sensitive to noise, or whatever – may occur independent of any specific malady – or may occur with more than one. Remember too, that, ideally, we’re not just treating individual symptoms. What will help someone with ADD may do no good (and even be harmful) to someone with Autism, and vice versa. Well, Donna, I hope that helps a little. Take care. -stan Before you buy.
