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cb <gilesmcmur…@yahoo.com> wrote: > If you take accountability to solve your problems (your REAL problems, > which is to start feeding your confidence and stop letting your > weaknesses take over you), you can succeed.
Well, theoretically, that’s nice. It’s pretty hard to have confiedence when you have absolutely no success to back it up. > >> I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my > >> life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would > >> cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My > >7) Would rather die than change. > I say this guy should just get a sexual therapist/surrogate and reduce > his fears of women, or just do some other kind of therapy. The way I
I actually have made *some* progress in the past couple of years. I remember how several times, the first time I really started trying to talk to a girl, my face turned red, my pulse soared, and I was visibly nervous. Now, I can make small talk with them (sometimes, when I can force myself) without it being a big deal. And I did finally manage to ask a girl out, even though it took me forever and didn’t work out. Anyway, all this does is prove to me how pathetic I am and how much the odds are against me of actually having any success because they simply aren’t interested, no matter what I do.
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Charlie <AnonAi…@yahoo.com> wrote: > like. It helps if you actually LIKE the thing. However, I might take > cooking classes, just because cooking decently would be a nice skill to > have.
Yeh. Get to meet a bunch of women who constantly complain about cooking for their husbands and boyfriends, yet, they won’t be the slightest bit interested in you. How fun.
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i think maybe this was a bit harsh, apologies "Mr. Teatime" <mr_teatime…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QxNI9.2987$dr4.27250877@news-text.cableinet.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> #1 You’re very unhelpful > #2 You’re annoying > #3 I don’t think you really read or understood what the guy was saying > #4 Unless someone is very mentally ill, I think that everyone tries > consciously or unconsciously to improve their life.
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#1 You’re very unhelpful #2 You’re annoying #3 I don’t think you really read or understood what the guy was saying #4 Unless someone is very mentally ill, I think that everyone tries consciously or unconsciously to improve their life.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jdobbs2…@yahoo.com (john dobbs) wrote in message <news:9e63d1b0.0212072232.260050f6@posting.google.com>… > From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> > Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm > Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU) > Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my > situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. > I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman > before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully > functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. > I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. > Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in > me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be > extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I > can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always > shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". > One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. > As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women > that I am attracted to. > The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so > different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with > computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a > Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a > hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even > going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured > that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a > long time > I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major > company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is > not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but > around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with > the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my > situation. > I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my > life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would > cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My > Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother > has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would > have ended my misery. > Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading > this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only > gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no > longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for > you. > Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who > thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s > a living hell.
I hate to tell you this, but your issues range beyond mere shyness or involuntary celibacy. One, you place way too much on being involuntarily celibate. Lots of people are for extremely long periods of time. Why are you so bothered? Because you are alone? Because you feel without a woman you can’t be complete, that your life is worthless? Since you’ve never had a woman, how can you tell? If you don’t know why you are so distressed by your situation – and, no, it is not ‘objectively’ so distressing – perhaps you need counseling of some kind. Two, IF the matter is so important to you – go to a sex surrogate. You’ll stop being a virgin in no time. The money doesn’t seem to be a problem for you, so why not go? Since you are 47, and haven’t done this yet (and don’t tell me you’ve never THOUGHT about it; or at least thought about prostitutes, etc.) – I can’t help but wonder why. I sincerely believe that if these two issues were clearer in your life, you might truly understand what you need in order to feel better. – Thoughtcube
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"Mr. Teatime" <mr_teatime…@hotmail.com> wrote in message <news:QxNI9.2987$dr4.27250877@news-text.cableinet.net>… > #1 You’re very unhelpful > #2 You’re annoying > #3 I don’t think you really read or understood what the guy was saying > #4 Unless someone is very mentally ill, I think that everyone tries > consciously or unconsciously to improve their life.
Yeah, everyone fights tooth and nail to improve their lot. Blaming attitude is bs.
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> I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. > Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in > me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be > extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I > can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always > shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". > One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. > As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women > that I am attracted to.
I’ve seen plenty of ugly guys with attractive women. I don’t know what height-weight ratios are "ideally", but I know it’s possible to change it. I’ve done it before. > The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so > different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with > computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a > Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests.
Yeah, those are all very male interests. It’s quite possible to get interested in new things, though. Except TV, I think that’s pretty gender neutral. Of course, watching TV doesn’t exactly get you out meeting people. Take a cooking class, or a dance class, or get interested in something women like. It helps if you actually LIKE the thing. However, I might take cooking classes, just because cooking decently would be a nice skill to have.
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On 08 Dec 2002 22:09:13 GMT, kitzneg…@aol.com (kitznegari) wrote: >wry said: >>It’s not even the celibacy part that bothers me. It’s knowing that no one >>is the slightest bit interested in even knowing you, let alone caring about >>you, that really hurts. >ouch 
that image just sucks too much to mention.
Yeah, you’re lucky if you haven’t felt like that for the majority of your life. I can only thank God that part of my life is finally over with. It’s like the worst pain in the world. And you know what, other people just try to trivialize it, like "oh, you’ll be ok" or something stupid like that. No, it won’t be ok. And even if through some miracle things do turn out, you still have this big mental scar left on you. Only people who understand this feeling that i have found are in this ng. For celibacy, sure sex is great and i understand the frustration of never having it. I mean if I was 47, I figure I’ve waited long enough… I’d go out of my way to have it just to experience it once (hooker, perhaps). I know it’s not much, but it’d be nice for at least a bit. It wouldn’t solve your lonliness, of course, which is 100 times much worse than the frustration of being a virgin.
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"kitznegari" <kitzneg…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20021208171508.08422.00000201@mb-bh.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> MnR said: > >> This is why we must show no mercy to females. Take every opportunity > >> to make their lives a living hell. Read all of darkfalz’s posts and > >> learn. > >Heh, darkfalz is our yoda. > Maybe that’s why he left… he couldn’t stand to be the one who fueled, focused > and enabled your hate any longer. He’s a good person, dark is… he was just > messed up for a while, he was venting, and now he’s back to realizing that > women and men are BOTH good, and you people are still using his past hatred as > a weapon. I don’t think he was proud of his history of hate anymore… but you > people are too foolish to learn from the GOOD that he did. It’s a shame. If > nothing else, it’s a testimony to me that no matter how bad and full of hate > you’ve gotten, you can always go back. > kitznegari… the penniless sitar player > http://spinning_plates.tripod.com
I think its all that internal hatered which is reflected in the person and scares away any potential mate.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -z…@pacific.net wrote in message <news:kRJI9.87$15.41@www.newsranger.com>… > In article <b3f99f5c.0212080238.7f9ca…@posting.google.com>, banhappinesspills > says… > >jdobbs2…@yahoo.com (john dobbs) wrote in message <news:9e63d1b0.0212072232.260050f6@posting.google.com>… > >> From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> > >> Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm > >> Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU) > >> Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my > >> situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. > >> I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman > >> before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully > >> functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. > >> I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. > >> Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in > >> me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be > >> extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I > >> can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always > >> shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". > >> One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. > >> As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women > >> that I am attracted to. > >> The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so > >> different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with > >> computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a > >> Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a > >> hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even > >> going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured > >> that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a > >> long time > >> I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major > >> company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is > >> not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but > >> around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with > >> the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my > >> situation. > >> I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my > >> life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would > >> cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My > >> Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother > >> has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would > >> have ended my misery. > >> Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading > >> this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only > >> gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no > >> longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for > >> you. > >> Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who > >> thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s > >> a living hell. > >This is why we must show no mercy to females. Take every opportunity > >to make their lives a living hell. Read all of darkfalz’s posts and > >learn. > That’s an intelligent response…NOT! > First of all, no one HAS to remain celibate their whole life if they make 50K a > year. He can pay periodical visits to a prostitute. > I know, prostitutes are destestable human beings, etc. Moral objections aside > (and he says he’s an atheist anyway), prostitutes have experience dealing with > this kind of situation. > Making women’s lives a "living hell" will not solve anything. It sounds like > something a psychopath would say. > zoe
Er..prostitutes are the only females in our society that pull their own weight. Emotionally, it is an extremely difficult vocation. Anyone who would describe a hooker as detestable is a sociopath. Making females accountable for their selfishness is the only way things will ever improve.
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kitznegari <kitzneg…@aol.com> wrote: > Maybe that’s why he left… he couldn’t stand to be the one who fueled, focused > and enabled your hate any longer. He’s a good person, dark is… he was just > messed up for a while, he was venting, and now he’s back to realizing that > women and men are BOTH good, and you people are still using his past hatred as > a weapon. I don’t think he was proud of his history of hate anymore…
but you How do you know this? Has he told you, or are you just making this up? > people are too foolish to learn from the GOOD that he did. It’s a shame. If > nothing else, it’s a testimony to me that no matter how bad and full of hate > you’ve gotten, you can always go back.
Oh brother, that was even cheesier than the ending of "Return of the Jedi". : P
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banhappinesspills <charlie…@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who > > thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s > > a living hell.
You know, I’ve thought of this. Not trying to actually get some kind of serious revenge on women, but just simply annoying tham all, all the time, just for the sake of being annoying as possible. Not in a rude way, but in a "making them look and feel stupid way". Like, when waiting in line in a store, pull a tube of yeast infection medication out of your pocket, turn to the woman behind you and loudly say "Is this yours? I’m sure I saw it fall out of your purse". Or bounce paperwads, or whatever, off their heads whenever they aren’t looking. Or take the anti theft device out of a book at the bookstore and throw it in their bag when they aren’t looking. Or just picking on their smoking, or their clothes, or their hair, or jewelry, or whatever. Or just ask them stupid questions just to be annoying. Stuff like that. : P
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cb <gilesmcmur…@yahoo.com> wrote: > Yeah, you’re lucky if you haven’t felt like that for the majority of > your life. I can only thank God that part of my life is finally over > with. It’s like the worst pain in the world. And you know what, > other people just try to trivialize it, like "oh, you’ll be ok" or > something stupid like that. No, it won’t be ok. And even if through > some miracle things do turn out, you still have this big mental scar > left on you. Only people who understand this feeling that i have > found are in this ng.
I wish you would post here more often. Because you know what it’s like. We need more positive posts here. I would like to make positive posts here, but there’s not much positive going on in my life right now, in fact two close family members have just been struck with serious life threatening illnesses. Makes me appreciate how good last week, even though it was fucked, was. Things only get worse and worse and worse….
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The Putt King <theputtk…@aol.com> wrote in message news:20021208070611.05475.00007722@mb-mq.aol.com… > To wry bread: > You say nobody is interested in you.
Because whenever I talk to girls, you can just tell. Once they realize that you are trying to go any further than small talk, they’ll just shut up and ignore you, or give you that condescending smile, which is worse. > Can I ask you why you think this is ?
Because I see it every day. > What in your ophion is wrong with you ?
I’m a 30 year old asian guy that lives with his mother. Isn’t that enough? > Why don’t people like you ?
I have no idea. I’m nice. I smile. I make pleasant conversation. It doesn’t matter. I get treated like I’m some kind of pervert or creep merely for talking to people.
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2002 18:50:59 GMT, Voxel Descartes <cu…@phi0s0phers.net> wrote: >> One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. >> As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women >> that I am attracted to. >3) He refuses to take responsibility for his shyness, instead blaming it >on his trichotillomania.
Yeah, this responsibility is a huge part of the answer. I have tourette’s syndrome, obsessive compulsive disorder, and I’m a minority who lived in areas that’s relatively racist. Oh yeah, not to mention I am extremely shy and definitely very shy around women. I blamed my failure on these things a lot when I was younger, and no doubt they made my shyness *quite* extreme. I could care less about any of those things now, they are no longer an obstacle to me. Shyness is still a problem but obviously I can work on that. If you take accountability to solve your problems (your REAL problems, which is to start feeding your confidence and stop letting your weaknesses take over you), you can succeed. >> I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my >> life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would >> cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My >7) Would rather die than change.
Yeah, I remember that feeling. If you think about it rationally, it doesn’t make a lick of sense, but that’s how a lot of people think. They aren’t aware of the payoffs of changing, only that staying the same seems to be comfy and feel better. The problem is that "change" is very scary and potentially very harmful, so people avoid it because they think it will hurt a lot. One has to be willing to risk that. Not only that, but failure happens more often than success, so all the trying you do seems all for naught. Sometimes, you might end up having to be in a situation where you have "nothing to lose" in order to find that courage. But if you can avoid that and convince yourself to risk change, all the better. Only thing you can do is keep plugging away at trying to change and hope one day you figure out how to succeed because your only other option is a life of misery or death. I say this guy should just get a sexual therapist/surrogate and reduce his fears of women, or just do some other kind of therapy. The way I see it, the guy has less than 10-15 years left of actually having a great social/sex life. After that, he’s left with crappy senior activity. He’s wasted a lot of time due to his own scared attitude. They guy makes a mint and he has no family. If I was in that situation, I’d travel the world and have adventures, pay for every therapist I could, buy hookers, etc.. Because what in heaven’s name is he using that money for? Probably nothing but electronic toys. I make a little more than half what he makes and I can afford to go on short vacation approximately 15 times a year (avg $250/trip), and I do just that. If I were him, I’d use that 10-15 years and money to just have a blast, cuz there’s really nothing left to lose.
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jdobbs2…@yahoo.com (john dobbs) wrote in news:9e63d1b0.0212072232.260050f6@posting.google.com: > From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> > Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm > Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU)
Sounds like karma in action, to me. > Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my > situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. > I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman > before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully > functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. > I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. > Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in > me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be > extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I > can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always
1) He’s 47, and has never been with a woman, yet STILL refuses to take responsibility for changing his standards in a mate. > shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly".
2) He chooses to wallow in the past. > One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. > As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women > that I am attracted to.
3) He refuses to take responsibility for his shyness, instead blaming it on his trichotillomania. > The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so > different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with > computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a > Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a
4) He refuses to branch out of Geek World. > hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even > going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured > that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a > long time
5) See #2. > I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major > company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is > not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but > around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with > the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my > situation.
6) See #4. > I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my > life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would > cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My > Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother > has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would > have ended my misery.
7) Would rather die than change. > Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading > this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only > gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no > longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for > you.
As #3, except now he’s blaming the number of years he happens to have been on Earth. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who > thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s > a living hell.
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"john dobbs" <jdobbs2…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e63d1b0.0212072232.260050f6@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> > Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm > Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU) > Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my > situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. > I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman > before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully > functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. > I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. > Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in > me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be > extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I > can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always > shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". > One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. > As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women > that I am attracted to. > The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so > different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with > computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a > Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a > hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even > going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured > that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a > long time > I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major > company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is > not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but > around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with > the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my > situation. > I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my > life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would > cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My > Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother > has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would > have ended my misery. > Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading > this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only > gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no > longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for > you. > Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who > thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s > a living hell.
HOLY CRAP that is a depressing story, 47 and never even kissed a girl! some of the younger guys in this newsgroup seem to be following in your footsteps.
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In article <b3f99f5c.0212080238.7f9ca…@posting.google.com>, banhappinesspills says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->jdobbs2…@yahoo.com (john dobbs) wrote in message <news:9e63d1b0.0212072232.260050f6@posting.google.com>… >> From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> >> Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm >> Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU) >> Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my >> situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. >> I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman >> before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully >> functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. >> I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. >> Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in >> me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be >> extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I >> can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always >> shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". >> One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. >> As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women >> that I am attracted to. >> The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so >> different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with >> computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a >> Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a >> hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even >> going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured >> that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a >> long time >> I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major >> company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is >> not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but >> around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with >> the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my >> situation. >> I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my >> life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would >> cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My >> Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother >> has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would >> have ended my misery. >> Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading >> this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only >> gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no >> longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for >> you. >> Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who >> thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s >> a living hell. >This is why we must show no mercy to females. Take every opportunity >to make their lives a living hell. Read all of darkfalz’s posts and >learn.
That’s an intelligent response…NOT! First of all, no one HAS to remain celibate their whole life if they make 50K a year. He can pay periodical visits to a prostitute. I know, prostitutes are destestable human beings, etc. Moral objections aside (and he says he’s an atheist anyway), prostitutes have experience dealing with this kind of situation. Making women’s lives a "living hell" will not solve anything. It sounds like something a psychopath would say. zoe
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MnR said: >> This is why we must show no mercy to females. Take every opportunity >> to make their lives a living hell. Read all of darkfalz’s posts and >> learn. >Heh, darkfalz is our yoda.
Maybe that’s why he left… he couldn’t stand to be the one who fueled, focused and enabled your hate any longer. He’s a good person, dark is… he was just messed up for a while, he was venting, and now he’s back to realizing that women and men are BOTH good, and you people are still using his past hatred as a weapon. I don’t think he was proud of his history of hate anymore… but you people are too foolish to learn from the GOOD that he did. It’s a shame. If nothing else, it’s a testimony to me that no matter how bad and full of hate you’ve gotten, you can always go back. kitznegari… the penniless sitar player http://spinning_plates.tripod.com
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wry said: >It’s not even the celibacy part that bothers me. It’s knowing that no one >is the slightest bit interested in even knowing you, let alone caring about >you, that really hurts.
ouch that image just sucks too much to mention. kitznegari… the penniless sitar player http://spinning_plates.tripod.com
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From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU) Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women that I am attracted to. The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a long time I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my situation. I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would have ended my misery. Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for you. Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s a living hell.
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john dobbs <jdobbs2…@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my > life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would > cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My > Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother > has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would > have ended my misery.
I know what that’s like. I know what it’s much worse to lose a parent when they are the only people that have ever loved you. > Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading > this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only > gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no > longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for > you.
It’s not even the celibacy part that bothers me. It’s knowing that no one is the slightest bit interested in even knowing you, let alone caring about you, that really hurts. > Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who > thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s > a living hell.
I’m trying. It’s like swimming the english channel with bowling balls strapped to my arms and legs, and duct tape on my mouth, but I’m trying….sort of…..
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -jdobbs2…@yahoo.com (john dobbs) wrote in message <news:9e63d1b0.0212072232.260050f6@posting.google.com>… > From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> > Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm > Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU) > Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my > situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. > I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman > before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully > functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. > I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. > Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in > me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be > extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I > can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always > shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". > One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. > As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women > that I am attracted to. > The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so > different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with > computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a > Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a > hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even > going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured > that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a > long time > I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major > company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is > not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but > around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with > the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my > situation. > I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my > life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would > cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My > Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother > has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would > have ended my misery. > Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading > this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only > gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no > longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for > you. > Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who > thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s > a living hell.
This is why we must show no mercy to females. Take every opportunity to make their lives a living hell. Read all of darkfalz’s posts and learn.
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To wry bread: You say nobody is interested in you. Can I ask you why you think this is ? What in your ophion is wrong with you ? Why don’t people like you ?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -banhappinesspills wrote: > jdobbs2…@yahoo.com (john dobbs) wrote in message <news:9e63d1b0.0212072232.260050f6@posting.google.com>… >>From: "lonerx1" <lonerx1@y…> >>Date: Fri May 3, 2002 11:10 pm >>Subject: My horror story (don’t let this happen to YOU) >>Well, I probably am outside even the bounds of this group with my >>situation. Briefly (like anyone cares) here is my story. >>I am a 47 year old male. Never had sex…never even KISSED a woman >>before. Nothing physically wrong with me, and I am "fully >>functional". I have always masturbated regularly with no problem. >>I am not very attractive looking. I found that out in my teens. >>Problem is that the ONLY women who have ever showed any interest in >>me are "plus size" (trying to be PC here), and I find obesity to be >>extremely repulsive (I am quite thin myself, 6′1 and 170lbs). I >>can’t help that. But women I have found "attractive" have always >>shunned me. In my earlier days, I was made fun of for being "ugly". >>One problem I have always struggled with is that I pull my hair out. >>As a result, I am EXTREMELY shy and uncomfortable around any women >>that I am attracted to. >>The other issue that comes into play here is that my Interests are so >>different than nearly all Females. I love to "code", and mess with >>computers, play computer games, and watch a LOT of TV. I am also a >>Ham Radio operator. Basically, those are my interests. Also, I am a >>hard-core Atheist, who was brought up as a strict Catholic. Was even >>going to enter the Priesthood at 14 years of age, because I figured >>that no one would ever want me. So, my problems run VERY deep for a >>long time >>I am fairly successful in my work. I am Systems analyst at a major >>company, and make about 50k/yr. So, I am NOT a deadbeat, and that is >>not the issue here. I am confident in my abilities at work, but >>around women I have NO self-esteem at all. I’ll stop with >>the "issues" here, as this is more than enough to give an idea of my >>situation. >>I really see no hope for me, and to be honest, I badly want to end my >>life. The only reason that I haven’t is because of the hurt it would >>cause to my last remaining "REAL" contact here on Earth. My Mom. My >>Dad and Sister died 3 days apart last year, and I am all my Mother >>has left (she lives 1000mi from me). If it weren’t for that, I would >>have ended my misery. >>Unwanted Celibacy is EXTREMELY destructive, and I urge anyone reading >>this to try to do something about it before you get too old. It only >>gets worse with time, and will drain your life-force until life no >>longer is worth living. It’s too late for me, but it may not be for >>you. >>Good luck to all. I hope my story serves as an example to anyone who >>thinks that they might be able to deal with UNWANTED Celibacy. It’s >>a living hell. > This is why we must show no mercy to females. Take every opportunity > to make their lives a living hell. Read all of darkfalz’s posts and > learn.
Heh, darkfalz is our yoda.
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