Brenda/Cyberbren/NONITPIC
Question:
"NONITPIC" <cyberb…@aol.comNONITPIC> wrote in message
<snipped> > I really haven’t been fully reading your posts for a while (depends on the > subject; I might read a few lines then skip the rest). Perhaps I shall > killfile you. Thanks. That is a good idea!
Yippee! Thank goodness! Now maybe you’ll leave me alone. You’ve emailed me twice in what, 3 years? Both those were also sent to ast. Please don’t ever email me again, whether that’s about me or anyone else. Thankyou. Frankly, I haven’t got a clue what you’re on about. I really don’t even know you and I know nothing of your son. I don’t even know if he has Tourettes or how old he is. I see you apparently abhore other people sharing personal information now. Not much support going to go on in this newsgroup if people don’t share personal information. Bewildering. > And you could do the same to me!
I’ve never killfiled anyone and don’t intend to start. Brenda, the whole of that last post you wrote to me is a prime example of the abundant kindness and compassion you hold in your heart for other mothers and fathers and people generally. Being sad in the past about my son having a misdiagnosis of Sydenham’s Chorea for 4 years before it was changed to TS etc, and then finally getting the AS diagnosis sorted out on top of that at age 14, is a totally different subject from what I perceive as your personal bitterness. I’m not bitter. I was dismayed. These days we’re too busy getting on with as much of the fun stuff we can squeeze into each single day. This is 2002. Move ahead and let go of the past. You surely must spend a lot of your time googling ast and thus holding on to other’s outdated emotions that you read. Let them go. They weren’t your emotions to begin with. The end, I hope.
Response:
My sympathies go out to Lara. Dr. Leslie Packer is known for out-of-control heavy handed tactics and over reaction. And, she loves power. Her ethical inproprieties are much involved in the illegal stalking and harassing activities in the sci.psychology.psychotherapy newsgroup. She, by throwing her weight around and making inappropriate allies in inappropriate ways, led to that group going down the tube. She has been known to do about anything to maintain a power position and in fact has encouraged people who threatened illegal actions and has had involvement with some who committed illegal actions. She continued and encouraged several people who had committed illegal actions. This all connected with her power struggles. This should make you, Lara, feel a bit better. You really are just the victim of a psycho.
Response:
<< Repost: No idea if this was sent to both my personal email and/or ast right now as I’ve not brought in many posts from overnight (18th/19th) on my server. I will reply here as it’s an ast matter but will address it to you rather than keep the original subject heading :ast.>> It was private e-mail. I continue to be surprised at the way private e-mail is posted to ast. << I sent this twice already 24 hours ago and there’s been some sort of news problem and it didn’t show so trying again. I apologize if the others show up later during the week. I’ll remove them but I want this matter done with. >> Then you should have just replied to my e-mail to you. see below. <<We worked it out. Kim and I made our peace very long ago as far as I know. What’s that got to do with you? >> Glad to hear it! You could have let ast know! << Randall and I made our peace very long ago too. Like the next day! What has this got to do with you in September? Anyway, they were wrong and it caused much wasted time and much grief for my son. Something you apparently aren’t aware of. >> Glad to hear that, too! These were just examples of how it seemed like you were going off at people on ast. I know about your son’s tale, Lara — you’ve written about it a *lot* on ast. << I’m in trouble now for getting angry at the recent "troll/s" invasion? Me? That’s silly! It’s totally untrue and that paragraph above has nothing to do with me. >> I really don’t care what you and others posted recently to the trolls. All those posts from the "new" posters made no difference to me. LOL Just pointing out the way asters couldn’t let it alone. << I wasn’t aware I got the sympathy of ast on anything. I don’t see what any of it has to do with sympathy anyway. >> Well, when you write stuff over and over, there tends to be a new infusion of sympathy. I read your story, too, for a while, and thought it was awful. My son has AS, too, you know, so I could relate to some of it (although I feel that our sons must be very different; as you know, every person with AS has a different manifestation of it and generalities are questionable). << You’re blaming me for the fact that many people have left ast in recent years? >> Not really, Lara. I was really saying that the general atmosphere of ast has caused the mass exodus. But I know that the attitude here is that no one cares, people come and go according to their needs, blah blah blah. But when I ask specifically ask people why they no longer post to ast or even read it, the answers are different. << please let go of the bitterness. I have no idea where it comes from but if you’re bitter about something here on ast please don’t continue to direct your anger at me. You can continue to say whatever you like about me away from ast, in emails to the "several of us" whoever they might be or wherever you like, but I prefer to say things upfront and work it out. Just know that I will not accept your bitterness towards me nor will I hold on to it. Life is too short. Time to move ahead. Just don’t read my posts if you don’t like me for some reason. I really don’t know what to say to you anymore and I’m sorry about that but I don’t understand. Let’s move forward and get on with the important things in life. I really don’t have the time or energy to deal with this continually. >> Bitter? That’s interesting, Lara, because I read so much bitterness in YOUR posts. Bitterness about your past, your son’s issues, this and that. I really haven’t been fully reading your posts for a while (depends on the subject; I might read a few lines then skip the rest). Perhaps I shall killfile you. Thanks. That is a good idea! And you could do the same to me!
Response:
Repost: No idea if this was sent to both my personal email and/or ast right now as I’ve not brought in many posts from overnight (18th/19th) on my server. I will reply here as it’s an ast matter but will address it to you rather than keep the original subject heading :ast. I sent this twice already 24 hours ago and there’s been some sort of news problem and it didn’t show so trying again. I apologize if the others show up later during the week. I’ll remove them but I want this matter done with. see below. cyberb…@aol.comNONITPIC wrote: > >"going off" LOL You’ve not ever heard me go "off". > >Which posters did I "go off" at in the last 6 months? > Well, to you it might not have seen like going off, but several of us were > wondering what was the matter when you snapped at Kim for simply asking if > you were okay,
You and the "several of us" were perhaps not aware of the emails I was being sent by "several other people" at that time and my reasons for replying as I did. I don’t mean Kim. I don’t like emailing about other people’s posts from ast and I made that clear long ago. If I feel I know someone well and there’s something really serious going on for them personally and they post about that to ast, then I email them privately and shall continue to do so. Sometimes (regularly) things get blown right out of proportion when other people get involved and original words get twisted or even just innocently misinterpreted. Like that game they call ‘whispers’. We worked it out, Brenda. Kim and I made our peace very long ago as far as I know. What’s that got to do with you? It takes effort to make peace from both parties when they’ve had disagreements. It’s like that in families and friendships. I’ve always tried to apologize if I’ve said something I’ve later regretted saying and we’ve moved on to stronger relationships. > and at Randall (I think it was him) for saying that one of > your son’s teachers might not have been totally wrong. This was back in > February/March.
Randall and I made our peace very long ago too. Like the next day! What has this got to do with you in September? Anyway, they were wrong and it caused much wasted time and much grief for my son. Something you apparently aren’t aware of. > And then I believe you were one (truthfully, of several) who > were getting very upset with the trolls a few months back. Actually, the > lack of control ast’rs had towards our "visitors" was amazing, when we’ve > been told for YEARS to "not feed the trolls." (Funny thing about that, > though — everyone wanted to be the one to tell everyone ELSE not to feed the > trolls, so in effect they were the first ones to do so!).
I’m in trouble now for getting angry at the recent "troll/s" invasion? Me? That’s silly! It’s totally untrue and that paragraph above has nothing to do with me. > I know you’ve gotten the sympathy of ast on this one, Lara, but, honestly I > feel I’ve been done wrong, too.
I wasn’t aware I got the sympathy of ast on anything. I don’t see what any of it has to do with sympathy anyway. It’s certainly not why I posted asking for peace. I apologized for saying one sentence to you out loud. I said I should have kept it to myself. I didn’t make a statement, I asked a question… a three word sentence with a question mark at the end. > Just think of the MANY people who have left ast in recent years. It’s not > hard to figure out why.
Why? Because of me? That ’s unfair and untrue and you know it. You’re blaming me for the fact that many people have left ast in recent years? Brenda, please let go of the bitterness. I have no idea where it comes from but if you’re bitter about something here on ast please don’t continue to direct your anger at me. You can continue to say whatever you like about me away from ast, in emails to the "several of us" whoever they might be or wherever you like, but I prefer to say things upfront and work it out. Just know that I will not accept your bitterness towards me nor will I hold on to it. Life is too short. Time to move ahead. Just don’t read my posts if you don’t like me for some reason. I really don’t know what to say to you anymore and I’m sorry about that but I don’t understand. Let’s move forward and get on with the important things in life. I really don’t have the time or energy to deal with this continually.
