Chiropratic is REAL HELP FOR TS
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while a treatement by a chiroprator may only relieve TS tics for a short time, that is not the purpose of the treatment. A soft tissue work up and adjustments are not meant to treat the tics. The treatment is for the damage done to the body by the tics. Does any one ever think what is done to the muscles and bones in a body of some one with alot of physical tics. the human body is not made to deal with most of these movements. the chiropratic adjustments help put the body back in proper position, if Used on a regular basis. This part of the treatment should also included a proper exercise program. IF I AM HAVING PROBELMS WITH MY TICS I GO TO MY MEDICAL DOCTOR REGARDING MY MEDICATION, NOT THE CHIROPRATOR – SCOTT LOEFF PYYT…@prodigy.com
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PYYT…@prodigy.com (Scott Loeff) wrote: >while a treatement by a chiroprator may only relieve TS tics for a short >time, that is not the purpose of the treatment. A soft tissue work up and >adjustments are not meant to treat the tics. The treatment is for the >damage done to the body by the tics.
Good point Scott. I didn’t see that side of the issue. I have always been a physical person – exercised alot. I went through a few years when I had severe trapezius muscle spasms every six months. Now I work out my stomach and back to strenghten the muscle groups and haven’t had a back pain in years. Thirty five years of tics have also left me with a 16 1/2 inch neck on a 5′6" body. Try to find a shirt that fits right. I do believe a large portion of my muscle development (not bragging) is the result of the isometric type tension created by supressing tics and the movements themselves. Heck of a way to stay in shape.
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PYYT…@prodigy.com (Scott Loeff) wrote: >while a treatement by a chiroprator may only relieve TS tics for a short >time, that is not the purpose of the treatment. A soft tissue work up and >adjustments are not meant to treat the tics. The treatment is for the >damage done to the body by the tics.
Treatment of TS is symptomatic. Tics in themselves are not harmfull except in a minority of cases. But if you don’t know why you tic, you may suffer doubt, thinking yourself mad. This side effect must be treated. If people scold or reject you for ticcing, your self esteem and social skills are wounded, and must be treated. If ticcing causes you not to fit well into the conventional classroom educational situation (which is, by the way, *highly* ineffective and more so with TS), then your academical training suffers and must be treated. And if ticcing gives you muscle pain or cramps, massage, reflexology or chiropractic treatment may be a perfectly sane and valid "treatment" of TS. There is not much inherent to TS that needs treatment; just social side effects, mostly. I get the impression that people with TS have more back, neck and shoulder muscle tension than they realise, and that a decent backrub is something many tourettics actually need. I often give massages to friends; yesterday I worked on my own shoulders and was amazed at how many knots I found. Massage is not the same as chiropractics, but also relevant. ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r / |/ a g e l The Platinum Puma
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In article <4lvs4j$1…@inet.up.ac.za>, pna…@bafana.epiuse.co.za – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Platinum Puma) writes: >I get the impression that people with TS have more back, neck and >shoulder muscle tension than they realise, and that a decent backrub >is something many tourettics actually need. >I often give massages to friends; yesterday I worked on my own >shoulders and was amazed at how many knots I found. >Massage is not the same as chiropractics, but also relevant. > ,_ > /_) /| / > / i e t e r / |/ a g e l > The Platinum Puma
I bought this great aromatic massage oil and a wooden massage device with rounded ends that kind of looks like a 4 legged spider with large round feet. I actually bought it for use on my husband for Valentine’s Day, but my son’s have used it too. Jason, especially, asks for a back rub almost every day. There are few things that are more relaxing in life. Bonnie Grimaldi in Columbus, Ohio
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Platinum Puma wrote: > I get the impression that people with TS have more back, neck and > shoulder muscle tension than they realise, and that a decent backrub > is something many tourettics actually need.
Heh, that’s the truth! ’Cept I’m fully aware of them. The agony of finding out that I can’t even stand up on some days makes this pretty obvious. Really, in terms of back problems, I’m doomed from the start. First, my parents both have bad backs, second I injured my back doing something stupid :> when I was younger, and broke a vertabrae (or something). Third, my ticcing involves being hunched over — This is an evolved trait that comes from having a suburban which a third row of seats. On longer trips, I sit alone in the back row, and if I hunch over I can tic without being seen. Unfortunately, I do this now even when not in the car. Lastly, I spend the rest of my waking hours hunched over a computer keyboard in what I’ve dubbed "emacs position". (A pun from "lotus position" and "emacs" — which is a popular text editor from the days of UNIX computer nerds). –Jared in WA
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Pieter, I loved your post – a good succinct set of questions to think about as to why tourettes should be diagnosed and/or treated! Gail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -a…@bafana.epiuse.co.za (Platinum Puma) wrote: >PYYT…@prodigy.com (Scott Loeff) wrote: >>while a treatement by a chiroprator may only relieve TS tics for a short >>time, that is not the purpose of the treatment. A soft tissue work up and >>adjustments are not meant to treat the tics. The treatment is for the >>damage done to the body by the tics. >Treatment of TS is symptomatic. Tics in themselves are not harmfull >except in a minority of cases. >But if you don’t know why you tic, you may suffer doubt, thinking >yourself mad. This side effect must be treated. If people scold or >reject you for ticcing, your self esteem and social skills are >wounded, and must be treated. If ticcing causes you not to fit well >into the conventional classroom educational situation (which is, by >the way, *highly* ineffective and more so with TS), then your >academical training suffers and must be treated. >And if ticcing gives you muscle pain or cramps, massage, reflexology >or chiropractic treatment may be a perfectly sane and valid >"treatment" of TS. >There is not much inherent to TS that needs treatment; just social >side effects, mostly. >I get the impression that people with TS have more back, neck and >shoulder muscle tension than they realise, and that a decent backrub >is something many tourettics actually need. >I often give massages to friends; yesterday I worked on my own >shoulders and was amazed at how many knots I found. >Massage is not the same as chiropractics, but also relevant. > ,_ > /_) /| / > / i e t e r / |/ a g e l > The Platinum Puma
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I have gotten so maany response to my orginal posting let me be clear. chiropratic care treats tics which are a symptom . It does not try to treat the problem which is beyond a chiroprator ability. By the way most tics will do harm to the body especially motor and to a lesser extent vocal. – SCOTT LOEFF PYYT…@prodigy.com
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Scott Loeff (PYYT…@prodigy.com) wrote:
: I have gotten so maany response to my orginal posting let me be clear. : chiropratic care treats tics which are a symptom . It does not try to : treat the problem which is beyond a chiroprator ability. By the way most : tics will do harm to the body especially motor and to a lesser extent : vocal. : – : SCOTT LOEFF PYYT…@prodigy.com If tics did harm the body, then I would have very serious vision problems in my left eye especially– as I have had many eye tics. This is not to say that chiropractic couldn’t help someone with tics. –gNAt
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gNAt wrote: > If tics did harm the body, then I would have very serious vision problems > in my left eye especially– as I have had many eye tics. This is not to > say that chiropractic couldn’t help someone with tics. > –gNAt
I think he means tics that involve extreme movement that might pull muscles, harm your back, etc. Not that just "having tics" will injure you. –Jared in WA (As my parents used to say, "Just make sure you’re not holding a knife when you start doing that!!!")
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A substantial number of people in our support group have had to have cervical surgery because of damage caused by tics. While chiropractic treatments would not have prevented the tics, it might have helped the results of the whiplash these individuals were getting many times a day.